No love for the Endela?

I think it is a great size. I know it will be a while, but I am definitely looking forward to a Salty one.
 
Just got shipping notification for the blue K390 Endela coming out of Knife Center after backorder.
Looking forward to seeing how the K390 behaves !
 
I just bought the standard serrated version.

If I like it, I will get one of the K390 versions.
 
Colorodo said:
Endela K390 at some dealers.
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So, I accidentally bought one of these yesterday. I thought it was an Endura 4 K390 in the display case, called it an Endura when talking to the guy at the store (and wasn't corrected), and didn't realize until I got home and opened the box that it was smaller. I'm not returning it though. Seems like a good change of pace from carrying a PM2 (I didn't care for the PM3) or Manix 2 LW. I was a little concerned an Endura would be too big.

I've been out of the knife game for a few years, so kind of a nice surprise to fall into a new-ish model and new Gucci steel.
 
Having carried this thing for about a month, I've been extremely satisfied. It's marginally smaller than the PM2 I typically grab, but the handle is more rounded making it a less intrusive pocket item. The blade shape works great for everything I've asked it to do - generally mail and Christmas box opening/breaking down - and the handle is very comfortable while cutting. I have not attempted to sharpen it yet, so no report on that aspect. From a livability standpoint, it's a big winner in my book.
 
All the Japanese Spydercos seem flimsy to me. I don't like their tiny pivot screws. I love the Taiwanese models for their thin edges and excellent finish. I love the US Spydercos for their fantastic tolerances and actions. I even like Chinese Spydercos for their beautiful fit and finish and lovely cryo 8Cr13Mov. But I won't touch an Endela. Try flexing the blade sideways.
 
dirc said:
Sal, can you share any details about the heat treatment with your k390? Or the target hardness / cryo / tempering cycles etc? I know us knife knuts will be loving it, but anytime I see a steel with 2.5% carbon I get a bit worried about toughness : )

Great selection/lineup/reveals recently, thanks!
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Search youtube for big brown bear K390. He stabs a concrete block with a K390 police, and picks the block up by the knife without it falling off. Then he shows the point. You have to see it to believe it.
No concerns about K390 toughness.
 
Mark Spark said:
All the Japanese Spydercos seem flimsy to me. I don't like their tiny pivot screws. I love the Taiwanese models for their thin edges and excellent finish. I love the US Spydercos for their fantastic tolerances and actions. I even like Chinese Spydercos for their beautiful fit and finish and lovely cryo 8Cr13Mov. But I won't touch an Endela. Try flexing the blade sideways.
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No offense, but why would one do that?
 
To see how rugged it is against accidental abuse. But if you're always careful, then the Japanese pivot screws are good enough. Everyone uses them so it must be ok.
Compare the pivot on a Military with that on an Endura. Both 4" blades. The pivot could literally be 3x the diameter. The Military is very much stiffer against side flexure, partly due to larger screw, partly due to bigger washers, partly due to stronger handles. It's just personal preference, but I don't want a knife with low safety factors.
 
Mark Spark said:
To see how rugged it is against accidental abuse. But if you're always careful, then the Japanese pivot screws are good enough. Everyone uses them so it must be ok.
Compare the pivot on a Military with that on an Endura. Both 4" blades. The pivot could literally be 3x the diameter. The Military is very much stiffer against side flexure, partly due to larger screw, partly due to bigger washers, partly due to stronger handles. It's just personal preference, but I don't want a knife with low safety factors.
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Lateral stability would be a function of the washer/bushing pivot. CRK uses as wide of PB "washers" as they can for the Inkosi line for that very reason. Diameter of the pivot bolt/screw would not really be a factor.
 
Mark Spark said:
To see how rugged it is against accidental abuse. But if you're always careful, then the Japanese pivot screws are good enough. Everyone uses them so it must be ok.
Compare the pivot on a Military with that on an Endura. Both 4" blades. The pivot could literally be 3x the diameter. The Military is very much stiffer against side flexure, partly due to larger screw, partly due to bigger washers, partly due to stronger handles. It's just personal preference, but I don't want a knife with low safety factors.
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To each their own, I guess. Can't say that handle flex has been an issue for me, even during hard cutting chores or mild prying. The blade is likely to break before the handle does anyway.

I kinda wish I had picked one up in K390, because it seems redundant now that I already own an Endura in that steel. I do wish I had the opportunity to handle one, because I'm curious how much different if feels and carries compared to the Endura and Delica.
 
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