No More Blades? Nah.

[Steely_Gunz]

I kinda expected this thread to pop up after I read the article. I was like, "yeah there are going to be a lot of knee-jerk reactions on the boards over this one".

I get it. As a society, OUR American society, we generally see knives mostly as tools, and even the the most pearl-clutching aichmophobia can see that SOME knives are actual useful tools. However, its not like that everywhere. It's pretty easy to see that the UK banned guns, so psychopaths started hacking people with swords. They cracked down on swords and longer knives, and they started stabbing people with shorter knives. It shows that you can't fix the broken brains of a species that has a perchance for violence. Our whole "thing" as a species has basically been bending the will of all things to what we want, and sometimes that has included hitting things with a sharp rock (either to make something or make someone do something...like...die). The world may ban its way into a globalist society that requires all citizens to gnaw open clamshell packaging for their own safety, but it wouldn't bother me too much. By then I will have purchased my patented Swiss Army Grill made from durable stainless and meets the TSA compliance of having individual teeth no sharper than a bicuspid.

 

[Guy McVer]

I'm sorry, you think a company... that sell products... is making a product for any other reason?

Speaking for myself: yes. Without getting into current events or politics here, I have seen countless examples of companies repeatedly making poor business decisions which go against their consumer base, precisely because ideology is being put before practicality or the goal of making money.

I think that is a real worry for some people when they hear news like this. Personally I am hoping it is an overreaction, but I have watched several of my hobbies fall prey to those who place their world views before good business practices, making or altering a product knowing that it isn't going to sell very well and that it may alienate many of the current customers. I've been watching company after company fall down the same path for many years, and it has personally impacted me. I have had to alter my purchase decisions many times because of this.

So yes, it is not so strange to suspect that a company might be making a product for reasons other than selling it or making a profit.

 

[gadgetgeek]

Keep in mind that Vic is one of the only companies that don't have a "grow or die" philosophy. Also keep in mind the hindsight bias, you remember your correct calls, but not your wrong ones.
Companies change with time, it happens. So if you have a company saying that they are going to make a bit of a change because they know they are not able to access a lot of customers, and they want those people to know that they can still have a pocket tool, regardless of what's going on. That's on them. If they go away tomorrow, my life doesn't change. If I lived in the town they are based in, well I have a few less customers. If I worked in retail, I'd have some shelf space to fill. Other than that, why should I care? I'd carry a bladeless scientist or explorer. I know vic makes amazing scissors, I like to have a can opener around for the rare need and bottle openers are great. A huge chunk of this forum is based on "can you just live with only the lower quality blade in your multi-tool" and a lot of people cannot. Besides, all they said is that they are looking at some. Lots of markets will still support having blades. I can carry my Vics in most of Australia (limited though that buying base is). I also know that I can carry a Vic in almost all my travels and still have some form of knife, and even if I get in "trouble" I'm clearly just breaking a rule accidentally and thus it's a not big deal (clearly I can play my privilege card, different story) But there are a lot of people in the same situation, the kind of people who will carry a knife all the time at the tax of replacing it for 20$ every so often, but having the advantage of a few tools added on, which they use more often.

Also, we live in a world of "press release public polling" they are watching, they know their market, they'll decide based on the feedback. Far cheaper than trying to hire an international customer survey company.

 

[MacGeezer]

The universe made out just fine before my existence, and I'm confident it will make out just fine when I'm gone.
Storm in a teacup.

 

[ShaiHulud]

Well, who knows, even if they took away blades on all models permanently, it would no doubt be a blow to their business, but victorinox is a brand now, it's on backpacks, luggages and even perfumes, and more --- their business would have to be reconstructed and recreated/rebranded to fit this new identity. Should they? no but can they? Yes

 

[BJE]

Bladelessforums doesn’t have the same ring to it….

I do find it sadly odd that so many members of a blade forum are supportive of a knife with no blade lol.

I don’t have a maga hat, but I do lean that way, the way of personal freedom and less being babysat and molly coddled, but I don’t really mind Vic making some models without a blade, I won’t be buying one, but as long as they still make knives with blades I’m ok with them making money off those that aren’t mentally capable of using a sharp edge without harm.

Freedom goes both ways, I want the freedom to carry a knife, so why wouldn’t I want Victorinox to have the freedom to make one however they see fit? I also really like saying freedom, it just feels so patriotically soulful, like bald eagles and bbq .

 

[ShaiHulud]

Bladelessforums doesn’t have the same ring to it….

I do find it sadly odd that so many members of a blade forum are supportive of a knife with no blade lol.

I don’t have a maga hat, but I do lean that way, the way of personal freedom and less being babysat and molly coddled, but I don’t really mind Vic making some models without a blade, I won’t be buying one, but as long as they still make knives with blades I’m ok with them making money off those that aren’t mentally capable of using a sharp edge without harm.

Freedom goes both ways, I want the freedom to carry a knife, so why wouldn’t I want Victorinox to have the freedom to make one however they see fit? I also really like saying freedom, it just feels so patriotically soulful, like bald eagles and bbq .

I have no need for a bladeless sak either.

 

[Blues]

Nothing more to be said without going further down the rabbit hole of politics. Let's get back to what this forum is about.