no more carbon v?

That sucks.I have a carbon V SRK and love it.The things a tank of a knife.i was thinking of getting one for my brother-in-law but i'll have to re-think that now.
 
The bushman isn't carbon v, or isn't in the same line as the recon tanto and srk and trailmaster
 
killerskill said:
The bushman isn't carbon v, or isn't in the same line as the recon tanto and srk and trailmaster
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Doesn't really matter what it is. Both Carbon V and the stuff Bushman is made of (W-1?) are very flexible steels by the way. My point is that I can't see how a 3/16" stock blade can bent so easily.
 
savagesicslayer said:
...i was thinking of getting one for my brother-in-law but i'll have to re-think that now.
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Why? Get one now while there are still some in the pipeline. If you call before you order the better retailers will check to make sure they are stamped "Carbon V" for you.
 
i'm told carbon v isnt stamped on the blade but is on the box. is it just hard to see like the pendleton? i've got one in vg1 and you have to pull back the grip some to read the steel type. i snagged a carbon v "boxed" master hunter (carbon v on the box but not the blade that he could see) on here for $34 shipped to me. great deal even if it is vg1. by the by, is vg1 comparable to 1095? is it close to vg10?
 
Martini said:
Isn't 1095 the closest thing to 50100-B? Blackjack, for instance, used it until it was no longer available. Now they use 1095 again. I would think this would be the obvious choice.

Of course, even if they use 420J2, CS will still call it Carbon V.
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agreed, 1095 carbon steel is closest to 50100 ballbearing steel. i kind of like it actually, those classical steels.

btw, i'm not a big fan of CS already, but if they ever start selling knives with 420-J2 then i'll never pay heed to that company ever again. 420-J2, sjeez, that's the total bullcrap steel found on display-only fantasy sowrds and made in china folders...........; what a bunch of $@#$%#!@$@!

420-J2..... :rolleyes: :thumbdn: :barf:
 
So has cold Steel actually posted anything or are they just pretending that it's business as usual?

Bors
 
Someone recently posted a letter from CS to their distriutors explaining that they were looking for replacements for the Camillus-made lines, with no final decisions made as of that time.
 
btw, i'm not a big fan of CS already, but if they ever start selling knives with 420-J2 then i'll never pay heed to that company ever again.
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Um ... I guess it's been quite a while since you've looked at their website, hasn't it....
 
I guess it could be 420J2, since they don't call it HC. . .
Just their mystical marketing slang "sub-zero quench"
 
Cougar Allen said:
Um ... I guess it's been quite a while since you've looked at their website, hasn't it....
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actually i vistited their site exactly 4 days ago :p ;)

i still like the tai pan and some others. was quite shocked they disco'd the peacekeepers! :eek: why?! those were value for money daggers bar none! my brother has one, paid $70, and it's great...
 
Businesses discontinue items based on sales.
If most people who who want one have one, why make more? :)
 
Nobody really knows what was in carbon v. It could have changed composition every year. It was tested once awhile back and some people have claimed inside knowledge, but nobody has claimed to have the true skinny in at least 5 years. That's one reason not to by carbon v even when it was made by cammillus. At least when you buy 420j2, you know what you're getting. When you buy "wonder steel" you can pretty much bet you're getting the flavor of the year (month?) that fits the spec sheet and comes up low on price.
 
YOU don't know what was in Carbon V. Some people do claim current knowledge. Like, people at Camillus. :)

Whichever high carbon steel it was, it wasn't just any flavor-of-the-year or month, and it wasn't anything like 420J2. It wasn't a "wonder steel' either. It was a simple steel.
 
How do you know it wasn't flavor of the month? What is the source of your information. Name and position at camillus would be nice. Have you seen the contract?

Most people answer this by citing the Cold Steel marketing information, which is certainly not reliable and has changed with time. Plus, suppliers often change materials and don't tell the marketer. All depends on how the contract is written.
 
brownshoe, you know I would trust an unattributed rumor before I would trust you. :rolleyes:

I believe Mike Stewart before I would ever believe you when it comes to steel. He is on record explaining Camillus using 0170-6c for the Becker and Carbon V lines, as Case does as CV.

Of course Cold Steel can use anything it pleases since Carbon V is a cover name. For a high carbon steel. If they start using 420J2 and calling it Carbon V, this will be pretty obvious to users.

As far as getting anyone at Camillus or at Cold Steel to go on record, forget it. Both companies had a longtime aversion to admitting Camillus made the Carbon V knives anyway. It wasn't a secret, but it wasn't a topic for discussion.
 
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