no more carbon v?

I read on the CS site yesterday that the replacment for carbon V in their
tru flight thrower is 1050 which will make a great thrower but obviosly will not do for knives like the SRK. The carbon V tru flight was an awesome deal and I am glad I have one. 52100 or 1095 and maybee A2 are the steels I would bet on as
replacments.
 
[Doesn't really matter what it is. Both Carbon V and the stuff Bushman is made of (W-1?) are very flexible steels by the way. My point is that I can't see how a 3/16" stock blade can bent so easily.]My point it it's so easy to bend because the steel that they now use ,whateverit is is so bad. Like a chineese flea market knife.
 
My point it it's so easy to bend because the steel that they now use ,whateverit is is so bad. Like a chineese flea market knife
 
killerskill said:
My point it it's so easy to bend because the steel that they now use ,whateverit is is so bad. Like a chineese flea market knife
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Curious, when you say it's easy to bend, do you mean as in it flexes easily or that it bends and takes a permanent set easily?
 
Don't know mike stewart personally, but do know he doesn't work for camillus. When it's boiled down, it still is rumor.

Someone had their carbon v spark tested about 6 years ago and reported on this forum. That's been the source of a lot of inside "skinny."

Remember your knife history. Having a "wonder steel" as a marketing ploy, plus changing the steel as needed for economic reasons, has been a historical trick in the knife industry for at least 125 years. Within the last 20 years, it's been done by case, queen, schrade, cold steel, and a host of kitchen knife manufacturers.

Read some coldsteel hype and then tell me if you can truly believe that carbon v is one consistent super steel. Many people don't believe it's anything other than a relabled simple steel, so if you don't believe it's a super steel, why believe it's got a consistent composition?
 
It's an easy guess that Cold Steel will do no more business with Camillus. Their plan is to move the former Carbon V knives to Taiwan and make them out of another carbon steel. They mentioned 1095 in their notice to the dealers. The first of these is actually the TK80 thrower which is now made of 1050 carbon steel or, at least, an Asian equivalent.

I know the Beckers were made out of the same steel as the Carbon V knives. Camillus is making Beckers again. I can't tell you whether they are using the same steel or not any longer but I wouldn't doubt it.
 
brownshoe said:
Read some coldsteel hype and then tell me if you can truly believe that carbon v is one consistent super steel. Many people don't believe it's anything other than a relabled simple steel, so if you don't believe it's a super steel, why believe it's got a consistent composition?
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Carbon V is not a type of steel. It is simply a trademark of Cold Steel. It is a marketing name, not a metallurgical one. They can apply it to any steel they like and have and will continue to do so.
 
brownshoe said:
Many people don't believe it's anything other than a relabled simple steel...
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Mike Turber posted awhile ago (years), based on a conversation with Thompson directly, that it had been used to refer to several steels in the past, but at that time they had settled on a specific steel to use as Carbon V. However it is indeed difficult to accept any strength to the latter part of the statement when you consider the former.

-Cliff
 
Hummmm.... I guess I still know the secret on this one. CV is simply a trademark and not a real steal. So whatever it is today is not what it was yesterday. And yes Camillus made it for a bit and it was a modified cold quenched 1095 at the time.
 
Mike Turber said:
Hummmm.... I guess I still know the secret on this one. CV is simply a trademark and not a real steal. So whatever it is today is not what it was yesterday. And yes Camillus made it for a bit and it was a modified cold quenched 1095 at the time.
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Because I hear this comment so often, I'll pose this question again:
If "Carbon V" is any steel they want it to be, and have switched steels at their whim in the past and called them all "Carbon V", why aren't they doing it now? What would stop them from calling 1050 or whatever they choose "Carbon V" and go on business as usual?
 
That's certainly one of his options. The market has changed since he started the "Carbon V" advertising, though; nowadays everybody and his hamster has internet access and we're not as easy to fool and besides, maybe he would do better claiming to have a NEW AND EVEN MORE WONDERFUL STEEL!!!!!!! Or he might do better reselling knives made of premium steels and honestly advertising what steels they're made of -- other companies do that and they don't seem to be going broke. No doubt he's considering his options.
 
I was on one of the major knife company sites looking at a knife I was interested in and noticed that there was one steel identified in the detailed description of the knife and another identified in the spec list on the very same page. Is the steel being provided in large quanity by over-sea makers checked to make sure it is what the spec calls for? I bought a tactical folder a while back and found three differant steels listed for that exact knife and model and blade type. There is no indication on the blade itself. Is there any reason to provide accurate blade steel information other that being honest to the buyer? A law etc. I do not think so. I really just do not know.
WOOK
 
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