No Shields

Status
Not open for further replies.
Which cutlery companies never put shields on stag cover materials? A claim of historical precedent has been made a number of times but no source is ever mentioned. I don't know the answer. Is it being assumed? Sure there are old stag knives without shields. There are also old stag knives with shields. Some patterns were more likely to be shield-less than others. But which companies didn't put shields on any stag knives?
 
If people buy them, it was a good decision.

If they don't, they'll put them back on.

BUY WHAT YOU LIKE!!
 
Jeff, A couple of other folks made similar statements and I totally agree. I suspect most folks will buy what they like. But if that means that we shouldn't discuss what we do and don't like, then there is little point to a discussion forum.

Regardless of whether we like the decision or not, I think it's good for everyone (including GEC) that there's an active discussion. There were no discussions when Queen left the shields off their run of Tuna Valley Cutlery knives. There wasn't much interest. In contrast, a lot more folks seem to have an interest in GEC.
 
Putting a shield on stag is like putting a shield on Roy, Dale, and Trigger.

7079.jpg
 
supratentorial said:
Which cutlery companies never put shields on stag cover materials?
Click to expand...

Very valid point. It would be interesting to find out if this is the first time a company has written off shields on stag altogether or if previous firms only avoided shields on particular patterns regardless of the material of the covers.

Thomason said:
Putting a shield on stag is like putting a shield on Roy, Dale, and Trigger.
Click to expand...

I agree. It would be a hug improvement. :p
 
"But if that means that we shouldn't discuss what we do and don't like, then there is little point to a discussion forum."

This discussion has gone WAY beyond what we like and don't like. We needn't discuss whether or not we believe Bill Howard, we needn't disparage his motives, we needn't conjecture about the REAL reasons, etc.
 
Bill Howard is a man of integrity,he was very transparent and forthright about this and his reasoning,he doesn't say what he doesn't mean.He doesn't like the depth of the inletting (parsing ?),and he's right ;when it's deep it does not appeal.

And I like shields,just not the soft bull.:)
 
black mamba said:
We needn't discuss whether or not we believe Bill Howard
Click to expand...

wlfryjr said:
Bill Howard is a man of integrity,he was very transparent and forthright about this and his reasoning,he doesn't say what he doesn't mean.
Click to expand...

I don't know how much more clear this can be. There are a good number of people that are here to discuss knives. We really don't want to hear about people's personal feelings about Bill Howard. That type of discussion belongs in GB&U. If you have something constructive to add to the discussion about knives I'd certainly be interested in hearing it. If the goal is to idolize the person making the knives it's really not appropriate.
 
black mamba said:
"But if that means that we shouldn't discuss what we do and don't like, then there is little point to a discussion forum."

This discussion has gone WAY beyond what we like and don't like. We needn't discuss whether or not we believe Bill Howard, we needn't disparage his motives, we needn't conjecture about the REAL reasons, etc.
Click to expand...

Disparaging remarks definitely are not appropriate but I think it's healthy to question what companies tell us about their products (discussing people would not be appropriate though) and to form our own opinions. Otherwise doctors would prescribe Guinness ;) http://www.cheffins.co.uk/assets/catalogues/lots/239/914.jpg A lot folks have different opinions and values.... and there's some good natured jibing about shield stickers... :D but we're all here just to share our interests in knives.
 
Last edited:
I don't care what some of your guys/gals say - For my .02¢, glued on shields across their entire line is the future of GEC.
 
pertinux said:
I'll see your .02¢, and raise you, oh, let's say... a piece of cheese. :)

~ P.
Click to expand...

Now this is getting serious...:D

It's not like GEC has never done a shield-less knife in natural materials before. They've left shields off of bone too.
 
Apparently my post in the GEC thread was thought not to apply to this one.

knarfeng said:
Discussion is good. But some guidelines appear to be in order.
"You said that because you think..."
You are not psychic. You don't know what anyone else is thinking.

"Obviously he is doing this because..."
Unless that person tells you, you don't know why someone did something. If you think the person is lying about his actions, well that's a pretty serious charge around here.

"I think the knife will look better that way because..."
Yes, we want your opinion of what you think about the knife. That's why we are here: to discuss knives.
Click to expand...


If you think someone is not following these guidelines, please click the "report post" button instead of taking them to task in this thread. The "report post" button is the small triangle with the exclamation point in it.

I'm also going to say that Bill Howard has already stated his reasons for this change. When you state that there are other reasons, you are calling him a liar. You can talk about whether you like the change and that's expected in this forum. It is not expected that people be called liars in this forum.
 
I think shields detract from highly textured stag. It looks awkward.

But on smooth or second-cut, a shield can highlight the stag and contrast nicely with the color.

So it just depends.
 
pertinux said:
I'll see your .02¢, and raise you, oh, let's say... a piece of cheese. :)

~ P.
Click to expand...

If you wanted to stick a shield on a slice of Kraft processed individually wrapped American cheese or some old sad package of cheese curds or even a can of cheese whiz, I say have at it. But don’t even think about besmirching a classic White Stilton Gold, Caciocavallo Podolico, Cacio Bufala, Gorau Glas, or Beaufort D’Ete with some tacky shield, be it pinned or glued. :grumpy:
;)
 
Last edited:
Hi Rob, Now that you as the OP have asked, I will close the thread.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top