Non-gravity folder?

[Sal Glesser]

Sal wrote, "The fear is understandable, especially in these violent times..."

Sal, I think you do yourself and the industry a disservice. Put bluntly, "these times" are not particularly violent. A perusal of FBI records and various criminology studies will verify that violent crime in this country is near all-time historical lows. Violent crime is very visible in mass media, but quantitatively we are about as safe as we have ever been in the U.S.

Hi Norman,

No disservice intended. The media is what the market sees, not the FBI "facts".

I speak with many during the year. public, law enforcement professionals, lawyers, lawmakers, etc. (I'm considered an "expert" in the field).

IMO, the "belief" of greater violence is there among the general public. I don't think there would be interest in "self defense" knives if the perception (& fear) of violence wasn't there.

Knife laws world-wide are, in my opinion, promoted by fear of violence.

Unfortunately, IMO, the perception exists that if you make a law against something, that "something" will cease to be a problem.

sal

 

[Jeff Clark]

I know that there have been reports of people on this forum who had legal problems because their knife had a button to hold it closed. They were accused of having a switchblade because of the button. I don't think that a button helps you. I would remove the clip and stow the knife in my pocket. I would not provide probable cause for a stop and search. I would avoid assisted opening since that actually violates the intent of the switchblade bans.

My routine carry is a Victorinox Adventurer SAK. It has a light 3.25-inch blade which has a heavy friction lock like any other SAK. It is impossible to flick. It also has an automatic secondary blade lock that slides into engagement when the blade is opened. So in essence I carry a totally non-flippable lockblade knife all the time. It does require two hands to open, but somehow I have survived the last 20 years or so anyway. It is also a nice red SAK which reduces panic when I bring it out. It has all the tools that I use on a daily (or at least weekly) basis.

 

[GarageBoy]

I was thinking, let it open w.o a button, but not all the way. Have a secondary manually activated lock or require an additional movement to let blade open all the way.

Hmm, Adventurer, kinda like a giant Tinker, I like that

 

[Nick Hyle]

Look at Benchmade's Rolling Lock knives - the Ambush (full and mini) and their NRA patterns with that lock. They actually have an anti-assisted opener, the detent function is a spring that pushes the blade to the closed position for the initial 40% or so of arc. Those are the only one hand openers I know with a feature like that.

 

[hardheart]

maybe get one of those locking slipjoint types, has a liner lock, but also the backspring. I can hammer open about any knife, only an Al Mar falcon ultralight gave real trouble, stiff spring and light blade (non-adjustable pivot, too) Haven't seen a Spyderco that can't be opened with an inertial, which I think is good, but doesn't help your situation.

 

[spinynorman]

Sal,

Thanks for your reply. The new FBI stats were released in the last day, and violent crime is indeed up for the second year in a row. But that is - at least at this point - still noise. The more important conclusion is that crime overall is at its lowest levels since the current data collection regime was put in place some thirty years ago.

I do not know what the real reasons are for the current interest in self-defense. In part it's the media focus on violent crime, which is a direct function of free market economics: sensation sells, as Rupert Murdoch can testify. In part I suspect that it's an interest in self-reliance in a time when self-reliance is both uncommon and actually, in many ways, unnecessary. (It is not necessary for most daily life; but perhaps, for self-respect? That's how I feel about it.) Anyway, violent crime is low, except for firearm-mediated homicide which is a price that we pay for the Second Amendment. Freedoms do not come without cost, and those who argue otherwise are charlatans or worse. We could ditch the Second Amendment and reduce firearm-mediated homicide. We could ditch the First Amendment and/or capitalism, and reduce the media focus on violence. I'd reject both of those options. In any case, life today in the industrialized world is pretty damned safe compared to life anywhere before Fleming discovered antibiotics, and people who send their days obsessing over personal safety are missing out on Life.

Cheers,

Sn.

 

[Jeff Clark]

National statistics are not as immediate a concern as local statistics or crime anecdotes. Once I left LA my concerns went down dramatically. I could easily get the concealed carry permit that I've always wanted here, but I don't feel the urge. That is independent of whatever the national statistics are showing. I'm not even all that worried about the crime 10 miles away in the part of town I never visit. Nothing makes crime more interesting than when it is up close and personal.

 

[glockman99]

How about a Kershaw Chive? I have a Chive, and there is NO WAY that it is a "gravity knife"...If I tried hard to flip it open without using the "flipper" the darn thing would just fly out of my hand.

 

[carrot]

How about a Kershaw Chive? I have a Chive, and there is NO WAY that it is a "gravity knife"...If I tried hard to flip it open without using the "flipper" the darn thing would just fly out of my hand.

But then it could be considered an automatic by an overzealous LEO. I wouldn't dare carry an AO knife in NYC.