Norfleet Delivers a Beautiful Knife

[SIFU1A]

Sunnyd; I’m sure you are a fine person, but you seem to have a lot of free time on your hands, and like some others, (hi wolfie), intent on hi-jacking this thread and turning a positive into something negative. Have you requested to see previous “original sales threads” posted on Bladeforums, about purchases made by forum members from; New Graham Knives, Ameriware Cutlery, Heafner Knives, SMKW, Mcknight Cutler, Sooner State Knives or collectorknives.net, all of which have received positive feedback in the GBU forum within the last week? No, I don’t see your probing there….. If you read my post I was just describing my transaction with Mr. Norfleet, I said “I ordered…and paid for…my knife” well before others; not where or how. There are other places and avenues through which knives can be purchased. Mr. Norfleet has previously posted on other knife forums, eBay, and his own website, as well as selling at local shows in his area. And, until you begin asking other forum members to start validating their transactions I don’t feel the need to validate mine.

Ah…hardheart I think you’ve got it.

I'm done; good night now.

-staz-

i dont think ya will see anyone bashing threads of positve comments about NGK and the others because there reps are immaculate unlike the individual these threads concern, imho ya are comparing apples and durian fruit lol.

i have -0- problem with ya posting a positive experience with the same individual though, it would be nice if the individual would take care of his obligations to others as well as he has taken care of you.

of course i can also see were wolfie is coming from and i know his intentions are the best.

 

[sunnyd]

Sunnyd; I’m sure you are a fine person, but you seem to have a lot of free time on your hands, and like some others, (hi wolfie), intent on hi-jacking this thread and turning a positive into something negative. Have you requested to see previous “original sales threads” posted on Bladeforums, about purchases made by forum members from; New Graham Knives, Ameriware Cutlery, Heafner Knives, SMKW, Mcknight Cutler, Sooner State Knives or collectorknives.net, all of which have received positive feedback in the GBU forum within the last week? No, I don’t see your probing there….. If you read my post I was just describing my transaction with Mr. Norfleet, I said “I ordered…and paid for…my knife” well before others; not where or how. There are other places and avenues through which knives can be purchased. Mr. Norfleet has previously posted on other knife forums, eBay, and his own website, as well as selling at local shows in his area. And, until you begin asking other forum members to start validating their transactions I don’t feel the need to validate mine.

Ah…hardheart I think you’ve got it.

I'm done; good night now.

-staz-

First, I asked you to post the original thread because I don't know your rep and Mr. Norfleet has gotten another bf.com user to post erroneous positive statements before in here. So, forgive me if I see someone doing the same once again and with NO original thread to back it up.

Second, You still have not answered the question. By continually avoiding same makes me believe that this thread, and your other two posts in the others regarding Mr. Norfleet stating the same cannot be proved.

Third, Please refer up to your quote which I have in bold. I have been doing a little business with SMKW and Sooner State via the Internet and eBay over the years an I am satisfied with those transactions. So that statement doesn't hold water. Further, I don't recall ever asking anyone else to produce any original sales threads in any other GB&U feedback threads except for you. So, would you mind pointing me to all those threads now please. These smoke and mirrors tactics attacking my motives makes you less credible, not more so.

All I was attempting to get to is the truth, that's it.. And, apparently it still alludes us.

ADD TO EDIT: Staz, you are right about several things though. I must have a little too much time on my hands, and my heart is probably a little hard. But getting to the truth has always been very important to me. In my first life I was an investigator(and still am by my very nature) and tend to question everything. I wish you all the best because no matter what your motives, you are trying to help Mr. Norfleet, and after all he does need it.

 

[Staz]

If Gilbert showed the integrity and willingness to talk things out as Staz has just done, there would never be a problem. Staz gives a truthful account of his transactions. :thumbup:

I'll let my wallet decide whether I would deal with Gilbert, and even with his positive accounting, 99% of knowledgeable folks are going to steer clear.

Thanks for letting us know.

Coop

I appreciate your comments Coop, and in today’s economy letting your wallet do the talking makes a powerful statement.

-staz-

 

[Staz]

i dont think ya will see anyone bashing threads of positve comments about NGK and the others because there reps are immaculate unlike the individual these threads concern, imho ya are comparing apples and durian fruit lol.

i have -0- problem with ya posting a positive experience with the same individual though, it would be nice if the individual would take care of his obligations to others as well as he has taken care of you.

of course i can also see were wolfie is coming from and i know his intentions are the best.

SIFU1A: I appreciate your post and agree that Mr. Norfleet should and hopefully will take care of any farther obligations he has. That of course is his business, between him and his customers.

As for comparing “apples to durian fruit”, that is not the case. If you read sunnyd’s posts here and in the Makers forum; he appears to be implying I am untruthful in my statements and demanding proof of my transactions with Mr. Norfleet by providing a link to a BFC post. That does not seem to be the BFC policy nor intent in the GBU forum, and I quote; “This is your area to tell about your experiences (Good or Bad) with dealers, sellers, and individuals you've bought, sold, and traded with”. It does not state that your experience needs to have originated on BFC nor does it state that you have to provide proof of said experience. The place where it is necessary to post your BFC transaction in on iTrader, and I was only referring to those other threads as examples of that. I have no problem with sunnyd posting about “his dealings” with Mr. Norfleet; in fact he could jump on one of the other negative threads about Mr. Norfleet or start one of his own as opposed to derailing this one.

As for wolfie; his first post seems to contain derogatory statements aimed at me personally, and if those are his “best intentions” I would have to disagree. I don’t know nor had any transactions with wolfie and am sure he is an upstanding person; in fact, I very much appreciate his edit and subsequent comments in his second post. I also understand his feeling towards Mr. Norfleet and wouldn’t deny his opportunity to voice them. He also has the same options as sunnyd; contribute to one of the negative threads or start one of his own.

Now I’m done, have a good day everyone.

-staz-

 

[Jack O'Neill]

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN . FYI , I have dealt with Staz and he is an honorable man with integrity to deal with . All his dealings with me were through PM and e-mail , therefore no postings .

 

[Staz]

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN . FYI , I have dealt with Staz and he is an honorable man with integrity to deal with . All his dealings with me were through PM and e-mail , therefore no postings .

Thanks Jack,

I very much appreciate your comments and willingness to express your thoughts in this post.

Now: Not that I need or are required to justify myself or my comments on this forum, I will allow this information: I ordered and paid for my knives over nine months ago in a personal, cash transaction with Gilbert. He has never asked me to post on BFC, in fact he said I could be opening myself up to the venom of various members if I did. I posted of my own choosing and free will, and did so because I like his knives and he has been fair with me. I also wanted to let others dealing with him know; that there is a chance for their transactions to end in a positive manner. No more, No less, No motive.

To those who have contributed in a positive manner to this thread, whether for or against Mr. Norfleet, I’m sure it’s appreciated by all.

-staz-

 

[wolfmann601]

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As for wolfie; his first post seems to contain derogatory statements aimed at me personally, and if those are his “best intentions” I would have to disagree. I don’t know nor had any transactions with wolfie and am sure he is an upstanding person; in fact, I very much appreciate his edit and subsequent comments in his second post. I also understand his feeling towards Mr. Norfleet and wouldn’t deny his opportunity to voice them. He also has the same options as sunnyd; contribute to one of the negative threads or start one of his own.

Now I’m done, have a good day everyone.

-staz-

My comments, even the deleted post, were not written with the intent to be deragatory to you. If it came off that way I do apologize. It is also nice to see Norfleet has completed one deal in recent time.

*** My opinion only from my peabrain***
I just had to disagree, and did not mean anything personal to you. It just sounded like we should be proud of Norfleet because he actually does have some sales where he delivers what is paid for. Further his delays and failures to deliver happen and he is only doing what other reputable high profile makers do.

Maybe I have been very lucky in my knife collecting. Several knives were delivered after the stated delivery date and a a few makers were terrible making/keeping contact BUT I have never had a Custom Maker say a knife was ready and will be shipped within a few days of saying so and then after recieving my payment failed to deliver. Not one told me the knife/knives were in the mail when in fact they were not or made it appear they were in the UPS shipping system only to discover that only a shipping label was printed.

Of those makers/Dealers you highlighted, 99.99% of the folks have never recieved negative feedback here for deception (read above) or any of the other things I just ranted about.

Your first post had words to the effect that; "I know not everyone will agree"; and of course some do not. The negative posts you take offense with are the opinions of others who in fact disagree with you, especially in light of the fact that you compared Norfleet to reputable, high profile makers. Any maker who says a knife is done and ready to ship then takes full payment and fails to deliver are not "reputable" in my opinion.............

Sorry for the rant.

 

[Staz]

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My comments, even the deleted post, were not written with the intent to be deragatory to you. If it came off that way I do apologize. It is also nice to see Norfleet has completed one deal in recent time.

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Your remarks are selfish; you only care about yourself and thumb your nose at the many "no knives Norfleet" has stiffed.
I would love to tell you what to eat.............................................

Hey wolfie: Yes, I guess I did take the above statement as derogatory towards me... If you look at the Makers forum you will see that bkrosco, BradB and Fiddlestick have received their knives and I know of three others outside of BFC (like myself) who are now in possession of their knives, so hopefully good things are happening. Most of the feedback posted here has been great, as long as I’m not confused with Mr. Norfleet just because I did business with him, I have no problem with it being good, bad or indifferent (ugly). I do think some of your opinions, based on my posts, are misconstrued do to your preconceived opinions about Mr. Norfleet, but I’m too old and tired to continually try to clarify them, but then again, they are just your opinions…Rant On.

Have a good one.

-staz-

 

[wolfmann601]

Thanks Staz, I truly wish things will work out!!!

I also wished for an SL63 AMG and a nice pair of Panerai's.

Still have a Nissan and a Citizen...

 

[Staz]

Thanks Staz, I truly wish things will work out!!!

I also wished for an SL63 AMG and a nice pair of Panerai's.

Still have a Nissan and a Citizen...

Beats walking and using a sundial I guess...

-staz-