Not a rant, but needs to be said

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Truman once said, "I don't give people hell, I just tell them the truth and they think it is hell." That said, I am not flaming anyone in what I am about to say, nor am I attempting to be condescending, fatherly, motherly, or doing anything other than reiterating what a lot of folks (but not everyone :)) already know. Really, I am not trying to be an a$$, but some may interpret me that way regardless.

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With all the talk of "secondary market this" and "good deal that", there are some basic guidelines folks should consider before buying or selling a Busse knife. Actually, this probably applies to a lot of things, not just Busse knives.

Buying

Buy it because you can afford it, you think you will love it, and because you think you will never get rid of it (all 3 should be present). You may use it or just look at it. Whatever the case, it does not really matter because when you get it, it is yours forever. At least that is what you genuinely hope. BUT...

Do not buy just to have. Do not buy it because it is uber-rare, super-cool, is very desireable by someone else (or was, will be, or could be), is a great price now, it might increase in value in the future, or it is the perfect thing to deanimate the next zombie you happen upon. Don't buy it to fund your kids' education or supplement Social Security. Yes, someone always eventually gets lucky and wins the lottery, but it will not likely be you or anyone you know.

Selling

When going to the secondary market, things like unanticipated expenses, especially those regarding health, are acceptable. Things like, "I got it because I thought I could use it or I would love it, but now I see I can't use it and won't love it" or "I can't use this anymore" or "I don't have room anymore for this" are acceptable. Thoughts like, "I can use this to trade into or buy something more desireable to me" are fine. BUT...

Whining because you can't sell something, mostly because you have an expectation that someone owes it to you to cover your initial costs when you sell or, even worse, owes you some self-determined level of profit is...well, let's just say "irritating"!!! Yep, nobody likes to "lose" $$, but look at it this way: "I got it for $500, sold it for $475, and it only cost me $25 to hold, swing, fondle, use, blah blah blah. What a deal!!!" If you can't absorb the cost of selling something for less than what you paid for it, then maybe you should not have bought it in the first place. That's ok though--there is much more to life than "keeping up with the Jones's".


Now, where's that INFI Khukuri???
 
Is this the long version of "buy low, sell high"? :p
 
:thumbup: I don't generally tell other people what to do with their lives or money, but I do find it weird that people would buy knives without knowing whether they will like them and plan to keep them. Me, I buy Busses to keep them and use them. I don't care how much they might be worth on the secondary market, because I'm not going to be selling them. And I won't buy a knife that I probably won't like just because it says Busse on the blade: Sus Scrofa? No thanks. NMFBM? Hell yes! Game Warden? Yes, please.

It's not a good idea to buy something, thinking you can probably sell it off without loss if you don't like it. If you have doubts, it's better to not buy it, or to at least accept you might not be able to break even if you do end up selling it afterwards.
 
I just buy the ones Tony G wants!

Absolutely. I'm thinking of retooling my entire collection around knives I think Tony will want in 2011. :p

Like Elen, I don't tell others what to do with their lives or money. The above is a rant IMO, probably brought on because someone wouldn't come down on a knife.
 
I would agree - provided 2 things:

1. Everyone buys my stuff on the XC in the next 12 hours for $15/blade higher than I have it listed.

2. Everyone sells me whatever Busse blade I want at 10% of your acquisition price.

;)
 
I would agree - provided 2 things:

1. Everyone buys my stuff on the XC in the next 12 hours for $15/blade higher than I have it listed.

2. Everyone sells me whatever Busse blade I want at 10% of your acquisition price.

;)


I'm down with that. Of course, all my knives, just like all my guns, have now been sold. So I'll just be buying.
 
The above is a rant IMO, probably brought on because someone wouldn't come down on a knife.

Sorry, but that is not the case. My coffers are not lacking in any way shape, or form. Actually, lucky for me, it is quite the contrary. I have offered trades for some rare items that were not accepted, but that is ok by me. I just did not have what the seller/trader was looking for. The trade offers were NOT declined because of a perception of a "lowball". Also, I have made no offer to buy anything here on BF in as long as I can remember (at least in the recent past (ie many months)) that did not come to a transaction where the seller and I both completed the deal feeling happy.
 
Pray tell then... why did you feel compelled to post a manifesto in the imperative (command) case? Do you not think folks here have the sense to make their own decisions about buying and selling knives? Moreover, why did you feel it necessary to preface your remarks with this disclaimer?

I am not flaming anyone in what I am about to say, nor am I attempting to be condescending, fatherly, motherly, or doing anything other than reiterating what a lot of folks (but not everyone :)) already know. Really, I am not trying to be an a$$, but some may interpret me that way regardless.

I've generally found it more satisfying to live and let live.
 
To quote the poster above...

Really, I am not trying to be an a$$, but some may interpret me that way regardless.

Has this not been brought up before (many times)? It sounds like another "Those darned 'flippers' have bought all of the knives that I want and are now trying to sell them for more than I want/can pay" thread.

With out further adieu- Hlees' ettiquette for buying and selling stuff...

Buy it because you want to buy it, regardless of the reason, so long as you can afford it (lets face it- no matter what reason you use someone will think it is stupid). Keep it as long as you want to keep it. Use it as you like (even if "useage" is in a safe). Sell it when you want to sell it. Make as much profit as you can (this includes lose as little as you have to). If you want to buy something but cannot afford the asking price, fine, keep looking. Making a big "butt-hurt" scene doesn't do any good. If you want to sell something and can't get a bite, lower the price. Again, don't make a big "butt-hurt" scene.

There is a rule on the exchange not to berate/begrudge/belittle or otherwise negatively post in a sale thread for any reason. I don't think that "the prices are too high on the exchange" threads should be brought here to circumvent that rule.
 
Pray tell then... why did you feel compelled to post a manifesto in the imperative (command) case? .

It was not intended to be a manifesto nor was I "commanding" anybody. I was attempting to impart advice that I have found works for me. Of course, YMMV.

Do you not think folks here have the sense to make their own decisions about buying and selling knives? .

Most folks--absolutely. Everyone--no way.

Moreover, why did you feel it necessary to preface your remarks with this disclaimer? .

My "disclaimer" was put into my initial post because I have found in my experience that most people immediately tune you out if they think you are being condescending, etc. to them. I wanted everyone who reads this to know that such was NOT my intent at all, even if they interpreted it as such. I meant no offense.

I've generally found it more satisfying to live and let live.

I agree, and anyone (everyone) can disregard what I have said if that is their wish. But if one person can somehow benefit by what I have said, then it is all worthwhile, isn't it?

May I ask why you appear to be offended? Or are you playing "Devil's advocate"???
 
There is a rule on the exchange not to berate/begrudge/belittle or otherwise negatively post in a sale thread for any reason. I don't think that "the prices are too high on the exchange" threads should be brought here to circumvent that rule.

$475 for a new ASH-1 LE is not too expensive, nor is $230 for a mint Rat Trap. Some prices on the X may be too high to some, but that is nothing new and no big deal.
 
I am sick of hearing people bitchin' about the secondary market... It is what it is ...

For the most part I get all my goodies through inside deals, so I personally can really care less about buying on the secondary market.

And for the record . Yes , there are great deals on the exchange right now..:p
 
$475 for a new ASH-1 LE is not too expensive, nor is $230 for a mint Rat Trap. Some prices on the X may be too high to some, but that is nothing new and no big deal.

Then why all the hubbub about buying and selling on the exchange? Buy what you want to buy, sell what you want to sell, and leave everyone else to do the same.
 
Then why all the hubbub about buying and selling on the exchange? Buy what you want to buy, sell what you want to sell, and leave everyone else to do the same.


:thumbup::thumbup::cool: This statement makes a lot of sense ...
 
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I am sick of hearing people bitchin' about the secondary market... It is what it is ...

For the most part I get all my goodies through inside deals, so I personally can really care less about buying on the secondary market.

And for the record . Yes , there are great deals on the exchange right now..:p

I agree on all counts.

Then why all the hubbub about buying and selling on the exchange? Buy what you want to buy, sell what you want to sell, and leave everyone else to do the same.

I agree here too. Maybe the hubbub will slow for awhile and we can all get back to having fun with our knives rather than lamenting some perceived loss. That was my original point.
 
Very cool of you to share your philosophy with us.
It is difficult to put your philosophy about a controversial subject out there because you don't know how people will take it. Hopefully, the discussion helped some people who might be confused about the whole issue... there were a lot of good points made by everyone.
 
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