Not impressed with my first Becker

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chad1043 said:
I would like it noted that the knife in Moose's pictures is a BK2... :)


Who needs those over compensating 7's anyways... LOL
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I noted it in the post. :D

I can and have done the same with a BK7 if you wish.

Done it with a few Kabar 1217's too. Read some stories about soldiers doing the sam thing in WWII to make burn pits. It works.

Moose
 
No I think the BK2 proved the point. No need to do again with the 7. I'm waiting for the OP "pics" to show up... Waiting and waiting...
 
Moosez45 said:
Wow.


...Third, I hate that your handles came loose. The basic process involved with BKT knives, is that finished blades come in a carton from the factory. That carton is then opened, and the blades are assembled by hand, by many folks. This involves taking 2 separate scales, 3 bolts and 3 nuts, being placed on the blade, and tightened down. Then, the blade is inserted into a sheath or cardboard sleeve, then placed in a box with paperwork, and then put in a large container rack and hauled off to the warehouse.

Last year, there were over 20,000 BKT knives manufactured, and assembled, sometimes, the screws don't get cranked down enough. These are people assembling the knives, sometimes, mistakes are made...
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Thanks for the explanation Moose, great post.

There goes the theory of- handles screws are loose to allow easy handle replacement.

I'm sorry but that's a bunch of crap, not everyone replaces the handles and if you're going to, it's not a big deal to replace them even if they were tightly screwed. The knife should come ready to be USED, not ready to be modified. Instead of saying it might have been a mistake, lots of you guys came up with a silly theory.

Still, TS should've checked his gear. Beckers are great knives with great value.
 
Any time I am going into the woods, I check and repack my gear several times. My hiking boots have 550 cord laces. My Beckers have stainless hardware with nylon locknuts.

I do think it strange that when one nut fell out the OP had the tools and then removed the remaining 2 nuts to take the handles completely off.
 
paperairplane said:
Any time I am going into the woods, I check and repack my gear several times. My hiking boots have 550 cord laces. My Beckers have stainless hardware with nylon locknuts.

I do think it strange that when one nut fell out the OP had the tools and then removed the remaining 2 nuts to take the handles completely off.
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I often times double and triple check my gear before loading it all in the truck. Then, I tend to obsess about stuff most of the night, even waking a few times thinking of something I overlooked or needed to add.I'm not OCD or anything, I've just been caught in some shitty spots, with faulty gear or something I've forgotten. Like, a sleeping bag in freezing weather. Yeah, my dumbass forgot to pack his sleeping bag going to a 3 day outing in late November in the Virginia mountains.

So, I double and triple check my gear, knives get fresh edges, and kits get dumped and repacked. I find it more fun each tike I do it. And I always find something that needs a refill or tightened down.

Not everyone does that, and there is no reason to berrate someone that doesn't. They will learn that "hot skillet" lesson someday, then, they won't forget it.

Ours is a forum meant to lift folks up, not tear them down.

We all need to remember, we all had first posts too. Help not hurt and if the proof isn't there, either wait longer or move on. No need to keep calling out, when there is no answer.

Moose
 
Moosez45 said:
Ours is a forum meant to lift folks up, not tear them down.

We all need to remember, we all had first posts too. Help not hurt and if the proof isn't there, either wait longer or move on. No need to keep calling out, when there is no answer.

Moose
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You're the man Moose! The Moose Man!
 
tradewater said:
I tried a some Honey Nut Cheerios this morning. Put some in a bowl and poured milk on it. What I noticed was the top part of the cereal was too dry while the part underneath it was getting soggy! What the hell kind of cereal is that? How am I supposed to eat this crap?

OP, I'm with you on this one. First a total failure on the part KA-BAR and now this debacle. I heard a story about a guy that bought a brand new Jeep and the left rear tire was low. I give up.
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So what did you win??? This has got to be the best response in the entire thread :D LOL

PS
I hate that crap too!!!! I want all my cereal to get soggy at the same time!!!!
 
You know, I understand where you're coming from. My first Becker, the BK-9, I bought three years ago and I had a similar experience. I took it out camping and during the course of chopping with the blade, the handles started coming loose. Unfortunately I didn't have any tools with me to tighten them up; I was just forced to deal with loose handles until I returned home. It's a little disappointing to have that happen when you have a brand new knife that your playing with. To be honest, being that it is a continuous issue regarding their Becker knives, It would be prudent for KaBar to either tighten the screws to where they don't come loose as easily, or apply some semi-permanent adhesive(like a mild loctite) to keep the handles in place. It only makes sense for the knife to come ready to use out of the box. I cannot speak to the rest of your issues though. My coatings wear down and then off, not flake... and I have never had an issue with the tip dulling from sticking it in a log(I don't stick live trees). One minor handle issue(quickly resolved) aside, I love my high value Becker blades. They're tough as nails, get the job done, look good doing it, and at an affordable price.

I also love Honey Nut Cheerios...
 
Welcome, Connor...

The loss of one nut would really be an issue if the knife had only one screw; 3 screws + 3 nuts = redundancy. Connor would've been well and truly screwed if there'd only been one of each. I have a Camillus version and it has been batonned quite often and used for much chopping, and the coating is wearing off in the sweet spot. Due to operator error, I've had to sharpen out some dings in the edge but it's the best chopper I have, and I have several.
 
Junglas said:
I'm sorry but that's a bunch of crap, not everyone replaces the handles and if you're going to, it's not a big deal to replace them even if they were tightly screwed. The knife should come ready to be USED, not ready to be modified. Instead of saying it might have been a mistake, lots of you guys came up with a silly theory.
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Guyon said:
The handles don't always come locked down as tightly as they could be. A quick check and a few turns of an Allen wrench will fix things. Also, the Loctite suggestion above is good. Just make sure it's the right Loctite. Clear fingernail polish will work too.
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And please stop fanning flames. If you're going to applaud Moose for his "lift folks up, not tear them down" comment, you might realize that the dynamic works several different ways.
Prodding posters in this thread is not one of them.
 
Moose said the same thing, I was directing my comment to those who theorized handles aren't screwed tightly on so that they can be modified. That theory is nonsensical. Combat survival knife handles should come ready to be used, not modified. I stand by what I said.

If you consider what I said as fanning flames, you might want to look at look at back a few posts.
 
You know after all the years that Kabar/Becker have been hearing complaints about the loose screws, they should have done something about it instead of ignoring the issue. It's such a minute problem and so easy to correct that the fix is simpler than the criticism, which also appears on other sites/forums reviews and comments.
Not everyone who buys a Kabar/Becker is on the forums checking out all the information on knives. They buy them, use them, they form their opinion and that's it.

These would be simple ways to correct the problem:

1. Attach/tape a piece of paper that reads " please check screws for tightness before use". Simple and almost free. This shares responsibility with the customer.
2. If you want to be nice, same as above and include an allen wrench.
3. Loctite them when assembling, or assemble with pre-loctited screws, or with nylock nuts.
4. Don't attach the scales. Just include the screws/nuts and allen wrench and have the customer assemble them. Saves time on factory assembly and the customer can't complain if they're loose. :D

Just a thought on something that get's old to listen to and is simple to fix.
You guys are proud of your knives and shouldn't have to defend such a silly thing as similarly in the old days, Harley owners with their bikes rattling apart or leaking oil.
 
When I bought my BK16. The bolts and nuts were tight. If we don't hear back from the OP, I call Troll. We asked for evidence we get silence.
 
Connor, what do you think about the knife now that you've got it stripped and the handles tightened up? Were you guys car camping or did you pack in?
 
right then.

117 posts including this one. connor hasn't replied after his #38 post. that's a lot of posts from a lot of people in the meantime.

as well, we're not going to see pictures. the blade has already been stripped and sharpened. there's no evidence/etc.

unless y'all got something incredibly positive or useful to add, we can stop calling connor out, asking for pictures, and so on and so forth.

yah?
 
I'd agree this thread has run it's course. I don't see anything positive yet to come.
 
Stabbing trees causes unnecessary damage. People should always strive to leave campsites better than they found them. It's a good practice for keeping campsites nice for future visitors.

Knives should be stored in a sheath when not in use especially if there are other people in the vicinity. Leaving a knife exposed in a tree or some other surface is unsafe, causes unnecessary wear on the knife and tree, and is simply a bad practice.
 
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