not normal?

ayzianboy said:
... benchmade 9100S auto ... cold-steel ti-lite ... cs tai pan ... cs vaquero grande ... cuda maxx stiletto.
Man, you've got some nice knives. The Silent Ops bayonet is beautiful. Too bad you can't carry that! :) The blade is pretty much identical to my custom Madd Maxx dagger, but mine's D2 instead of S30V.

People's reactions are funny. You can imagine what a Vaquero Grande must look like to non-knife people. One day I was cutting back thorn bush branches from our local nature trail. Really hacking away at them. A young girl came by, on her way home from school, and gave me a big smile for clearing the trail. That knife, in plain sight, didn't bother her at all.

A properly brought-up child!
 
Like everybody else, I started carrying young. My first carry knife was an old Barlow, then an EZOut, then a Kershaw Blackout, then a BM910. I haven't changed much, except now I can identify sheeple, and have other knives to use when they're around.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Man, you've got some nice knives. The Silent Ops bayonet is beautiful. Too bad you can't carry that! :) The blade is pretty much identical to my custom Madd Maxx dagger, but mine's D2 instead of S30V.

People's reactions are funny. You can imagine what a Vaquero Grande must look like to non-knife people. One day I was cutting back thorn bush branches from our local nature trail. Really hacking away at them. A young girl came by, on her way home from school, and gave me a big smile for clearing the trail. That knife, in plain sight, didn't bother her at all.

A properly brought-up child!

lol

yeah, i'm starting to cary the cuda maxx stiletto as my edc, oh man do I get looks when i take it out to peel an apple or something of the sort.

the reason i have so many cold steel things is because a friend of mine works there, so i get everything 50% off :P

i'm tempted to pick up a camillus combo edge junior terzuola as a fixed blade EDC :P but then i feel like i might as well spend the extra 20 and get the full sized terzuola for security purposes in durham late at night.

the problem with carrying fixed blades for security is that most of the time, situations in which i will need it usually involve returning late from a bar or club or pool hall. in which case having a big fixed blade on you really makes people scratch their heads.
 
Most teens who carry here, carry these made in china POS, mainly to show off and act like a big shot. (look, he's cool, he can flip open a bali...) The other group robs people with them.
 
Russell92 said:
What I'm really worried about is when I start carrying fixed blades. I've always carried folders in the past but I want to get a fixed blade to carry for defense. I go to school in Washington DC so it's not the safest place in the world and I'm going to get a Spyderco Ronin soon to carry next year. I'm going to carry it IWB but if any of my friends ever see this scary looking knife they'll probably get really freaked out.

For the money you're going to be spending on that ronin, there are much better alternatives. Although spyderco does make excellent knives, i think the ronin is too much handle and not enough blade, and isn't very effective as a self-defense tool. It's pretty hard (and in most places illegal) to completely conceal a fixed blade knife, so you might as well get a good one.

may i suggest buying a camillus junior terzuola. A friend of mine owns the full-sized terzuola, and I must say those knives are amazing.

edit: nevermind, i'm a retard and just realized DC laws don't allow for blades longer than 3". I'm used to florida laws and NC laws, where there are no restrictions on blade length, only concealment and blade types :p

You might try looking at the cold steel para edge:

http://www.knifeworks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1170

available in both double edged spear point, and tanto point. It's significantly cheaper than your ronin.
 
ayzianboy said:
the reason i have so many cold steel things is because a friend of mine works there, so i get everything 50% off :p.
As long as you get the right ones, they're good knives, and Lynn Thompson isn't ashamed of designing self-defense equipment.

... having a big fixed blade on you really makes people scratch their heads.
IWB SOB -- inside the waistband at the small of the back. I used to carry a 4" dagger there, wearing a business suit, and no one noticed it when I took my jacket off. Slide the handle almost horizontal and all it takes is a finger hooked under it to pull it up and out.
 
Ayzianboy,
Large handles with smaller blades is a recurring theme with Spyderco. The theory is, you may need a smaller sized blade, but your hand isn't exactly going to get smaller is it? ;) (Think "Box Cutter")
-Kevin
 
Interesting thread and got me thinking. I can't actually remember a time when I didn't have a knife of some sort, (usually really small folders). I guess I was probably in the 7 - 10 range when I began carrying one more or less permanently but I really don't recall.

Growing up in the country probably makes a difference because they're just tools. There is always something that needs cutting and so on. The only really early thing I can recall doing with a knife was cutting up, and sharpening, sticks to make my own bow and arrows.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
IWB SOB -- inside the waistband at the small of the back. I used to carry a 4" dagger there, wearing a business suit, and no one noticed it when I took my jacket off. Slide the handle almost horizontal and all it takes is a finger hooked under it to pull it up and out.

I can't seem to find a good sheath for that kind of carrying. CS kydex sheaths only have stationary belt clips =/


Morgoth412 said:
Ayzianboy,
Large handles with smaller blades is a recurring theme with Spyderco. The theory is, you may need a smaller sized blade, but your hand isn't exactly going to get smaller is it? ;) (Think "Box Cutter")
-Kevin

agreed, but if he actually is going to use it for self-defense, it would be natural to assume that the attacker is armed as well. In which case, assuming neither are incompetent fools, that extra bit of blade length is going to help a lot.

There's also the added deterrent factor. I've managed to get out of a potential mugging/fight simply by pulling out a bigger nastier looking blade, and the other guy just took off, which is the ideal situation. Only idiots that watch too many movies imagine vicious knife fights in the middle of the night. It's best to avoid trouble when you can.

I sometimes walk to a friend's apt (about 1 1/2 miles away, but it cuts through a rather bad part of durham) at night with my paul chen katana or cs chinese war sword. There have been 2 shootings and numerous muggings in that area in the past year, and I have yet managed to avoid any confrontation at all (save that one).

Carrying concealed fixed blades and tactical folders is all well and good, but nothing is a more effective method of defense than deterrence by walking around with a big "don't fuk with me" sign, which in my case happens to be http://www.ltspecpro.com/chinwarswor.html
 
Ayzianboy,
I don't claim to be an expert on self defense, I use my knives for utility. Carrying a larger knife may be more effective, but should you have to use it you might catch jail time for using a "deadly weapon." I beleive the point of the 3inch blade in this case is to avoid having "illegal weapon"s charges filed against you. 3 inches of blade is legal in many states.
-Kevin
 
Different knives for different needs. If you're going to duel with knives, sure, go for a big blade. Carry lots of bandages, too.

Small blades are for last-ditch, close-up, back-to-the-wall situations. No sense being unarmed if you can't get away, but once you're that close, you don't need a long blade to do serious damage -- if you know what you're doing.

The Ronin or the DoDo are ferocious -- short, sharp, strong blades for slashing. Personally, I think the new folding Ronin, the Yojimbo, is an even better choice: it's got a beak on the tail like a DoDo or a Scorpius, for striking without getting some BG's blood all over you.

The Cold Steel neck knives are for utility only -- the handles are too short for good control under stress.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Small blades are for last-ditch, close-up, back-to-the-wall situations. No sense being unarmed if you can't get away, but once you're that close, you don't need a long blade to do serious damage -- if you know what you're doing.
I totally agree with Esav. The first response if you are attacked (and if your not a LEO) is to run away. The goal is to save your life. If it is not possible, you will be very close to your aggressor. So I think the most important thing is to be able to deploy your knife quickly for slashing.
 
Morgoth412 said:
Ayzianboy,
I don't claim to be an expert on self defense, I use my knives for utility. Carrying a larger knife may be more effective, but should you have to use it you might catch jail time for using a "deadly weapon." I beleive the point of the 3inch blade in this case is to avoid having "illegal weapon"s charges filed against you. 3 inches of blade is legal in many states.
-Kevin

yeah i edited my earlier post, hahaha. I'm used to Florida and North Carolina knife laws. North Carolina has no limit on blade length, so long as the knife isn't a bowie, dirk, dagger, or balisong, and not concealed. In Florida, there is no limit on blade length either. Pocketknives must be 4" or less if concealed, but you can carry anything you want in the open. :P
 
ayzianboy said:
yeah i edited my earlier post, hahaha. I'm used to Florida and North Carolina knife laws. North Carolina has no limit on blade length, so long as the knife isn't a bowie, dirk, dagger, or balisong, and not concealed. In Florida, there is no limit on blade length either. Pocketknives must be 4" or less if concealed, but you can carry anything you want in the open. :P

Me and Esav have it good in Jersey with knives, despite all are anti-gun politicians. No restrictions here except gravity and auto knives. :)

I wouldn't put it past alot of our LEO's to make up their own rules on the street :rolleyes: , but at least in court you couldn't be convicted of anything.
-Kevin
 
i am a boy scout and grew up learning to use knives. i use one strictly for utility. I dont use it all the time but ti is really handy to have one with you. It is a fairly nasty looking knife to sheeple ( all black flash II serrated). its surprising no one has ever asked me about the clip.

i have it but hope never to have to use it in self defence. from the way i see it, unless highly trained none win in a knife fight. if closed it would make a decent pomel to give you time to get away.
 
ayzianboy said:
For the money you're going to be spending on that ronin, there are much better alternatives. Although spyderco does make excellent knives, i think the ronin is too much handle and not enough blade, and isn't very effective as a self-defense tool. It's pretty hard (and in most places illegal) to completely conceal a fixed blade knife, so you might as well get a good one.

I would love to carry a larger knife but as you said I can't in DC. There might be other knives that are cheaper than the Ronin but I've wanted one for a while now and it looks like a pretty good choice for defense when I can't carry over a 3" blade.

I have not seen anything that says it is illegal to fully conceal a fixed blade in DC. If I am wrong please someone correct me so I know not to carry one. The only site I've found that mentions anything about concealing fixed blades is this http://www.thehighroad.org/library/blades/knifelaws.html and if this site is correct then I would be fine concealing the Ronin.
 
GarageBoy said:
The Ronin as Martial Arts instructor Janich behind it
Yeah, I know ... Janich with the Ronin, Bram Frank and his stubby bladed Gunting, Fred Perrin and all his tiny blades ... these guys could take any of us down bare handed even if we were waving Bagwell bowies around! :D

But I do agree with them. Given motivation (DON'T KILL MEEEE !!!) and a short, sharp blade (La Griffe is ideal -- you won't drop it) then anyone can make the bad guy remember why he should go someplace else.

Good handle, small blade, is also ideal utility for most purposes, like opening packages or cutting twine. All of you people with BIG BLADES have psychological problems. :grumpy: All of us people ... :(

I won't advocate freaking out the neighbors, but ... I don't think it's a bad idea, either, to carry a good-sized knife if you can do so legally, and let the people around you see how useful and unremarkable a real knife can be. They've been taught not to, so they don't, and gradually they all forget. A knife is a tool -- a knife is THE TOOL, the one that makes all the others possible. Carry them, show them off, use them responsibly. Teach them that they need one, too.
 
We live in a very sick society .Like Esav I have carried a knife from the time I was about 10, it's man's most basic TOOL. Things have changed . The other night on the news they had to cut something .One of them said 'we need one of those things that we shouldn't talk about'....It's now politically incorrect to even use the word KNIFE !!!
 
mete said:
The other night on the news they had to cut something .One of them said 'we need one of those things that we shouldn't talk about'....It's now politically incorrect to even use the word KNIFE !!!

i find that hard to believe. where do you live?
 
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