Not to make enemies, fully independent 2 x 2 is the best traditional slipjoint.

I feel very similarly, but take the logic one step further. Single bladed knives are what's in my RFP.

(I carry a Leatherman Micra in my LFP)

Best? Channeling Pirsig, "best" is that which produces peace of mind for the owner.
 
Give all the Stockman patterns a look before picking one to see how the sheepsfoot blade sits in the frame of the various patterns. For instance, the sheepsfoot blade on a Case #18 pattern sits very high in it's frame while the sheepsfoot blade on a Case #47 pattern sits relatively low in it's frame.
 
richstag said:
Hank, I have never really seen anyone get mad at anyone for liking a certain knife here in the traditional section.
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Not to split hairs, but Hank didn't just say he liked them, or that he liked them best, Hank said "Not to make enemies, fully independent 2 x 2 is the best traditional slipjoint."

Personally they are my favorite as well, so no enemy here, but I think I would have thrown in the old "IMHO" after that one and not a period.
Just to keep things freindly of course ;) :p
 
FLymon said:
Not to split hairs, but Hank didn't just say he liked them, or that he liked them best, Hank said "Not to make enemies, fully independent 2 x 2 is the best traditional slipjoint."

Personally they are my favorite as well, so no enemy here, but I think I would have thrown in the old "IMHO" after that one and not a period.
Just to keep things freindly of course ;) :p
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Perhaps that's why he's been hiding out in the "rear den" and hasn't been heard from since the original post...;) :p

Besides, what are we gonna do to him that a good crink couldn't fix? :D
 
FLymon said:
Not to split hairs, but Hank didn't just say he liked them, or that he liked them best, Hank said "Not to make enemies, fully independent 2 x 2 is the best traditional slipjoint."

Personally they are my favorite as well, so no enemy here, but I think I would have thrown in the old "IMHO" after that one and not a period.
Just to keep things freindly of course ;) :p
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Haha, guess what, whether someone says something as IMO or not, I read it as IMO. That is unless of course it is a well founded FACT :)
 
Blues said:
;) :p

Besides, what are we gonna do to him that a good crink couldn't fix? :D
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are you saying that you can fix anything with a good crink?? Huh?? Are ya??

I'll have you know, I RESEMBLE that remark!!

:p
 
Yeh, all this stuff is as personal as underwear choice.

One guy from another forum about another collector fancy drops ATMO regularly. According to my opinion. It's a bit ruder and blunter, ATMO.
 
waynorth said:
are you saying that you can fix anything with a good crink?? Huh?? Are ya??

I'll have you know, I RESEMBLE that remark!!

:p
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Yes, that's exactly what he means.

You're our favorite good crink, and you get the job done. ;)

~ P.
 
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"I crink, therefore I am."
 
Well, Hank, you won't get an argument from me, as 2x2 is my favorite as well. Mind you, I like other configurations as well, but I am most often found with a 'Jack' in my pocket.
 
I've been sittin' here looking at my 61OT and wondering why I always thought it was the best traditional pattern. I tested the 'snap' on closing the spey and sheepsfoot and they looked and sounded the same. I opened the blades and checked for rub and there wasn't any! I closed the blades and looked at the knife, and it is the image of elegance and beauty. Then it occured to me, from the modified Turkish clip point on its independent spring to the usefullness of having 2 additional blades for expanded use, a good stockman is by far the best traditional slipjoint. (I will admit that the sheepsfoot does ride a little high on my Queen #9).
 
A stockman, regardless of the pattern, can be made to have the sheepfoot blade sit low in the frame. Look at these various examples.

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I sanded the kicks of the blades on my S&M Woodsman, so all the blades sit a little lower. A little crinking and asymmetrical grinding ensures that the blades don't rub. I don't mind if the blades on my knives rub a little, though. I like having as many blades with as few springs as possible on stockmen and such multi-bladed, double-ended knives. I do have a stockman with three springs, but it has four blades! (Two "main" blades)

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this truly is the good 'ol boys forum. thanks for the replies gents! i guess i'm used to somewhat snarky inter-brand foruming, which is what i often get when discussing 'moderns.' the black mamba made a good point regarding blade height in stockmans. i suppose any slipit with more than 2 blades becomes a design problem. the basic requirement is you have to have all 3 thumb notches exposed with enough clearance above and behind each one for easy purchase. so while it's possible to make all three sit low, you can't sink them too low. my 301 has a nice profile but that's because it's slightly sow-bellied so the middle blade doesn't have to sit high. with my '18, both the modified clip and the spey have their thumb notches too close to the handle edge so you have to invert your thumb and slide the nail over the bone handle to feel the notch --hard when doing it in the dark or by feel alone. more than once, i discovered i was opening the spey in the wrong direction.

oh yes, mr. wanna-be-expert 'rear den' likes to forget putting his IMHHHHHO in his posts. ;)
 
I find good use for sheepsfoot blades too, but a hearty 3 3/8" bone handled jack knife with a clip and pen rides my pocket most days.
 
I'd rather have blade rubs in 2x3 knives like the med stockman than 3x3 where the knife rolls all the time in the pocket like the buck 303. I also like muskrats with 1 spring instead of 2. No need for a second spring there.

What i dont like are the whittlers where the master blade uses 2 springs.
 
for some reason elderly housewives in bulacan philippines, who like to carve fruits and vegetables into decoratives, like 2X1 pens.
 
I like my medium stockman like the one you described particularly because of the high riding sheepsfoot, because it's very easy to open it with a pinch. I also love how thin it is.
About the scratching, i can live without, but since this is carbon steel and a work knife, doesn't bother me.
Still, the knife i've carried most in the last year was a peanut, a serpentine jack.
In general, i've noticed that if there is a knife you hate, you can use the hell out of it, daring to approach jobs that otherwise you would be afraid to use it. After a while, you'll know if you still hate it, or if it had become a favorite.
 
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this guy reads minds! the abused knife becomes the favorite, not the usually idle EDC. i'm actually threatening my 6318 with that, just like i did with the buck. funny thing is the buck 301 is my current hard use knife. it just sits on a table in the middle of the house and does every cutting chore except chopping. the medium stockman might just sit beside it and get equal playing time.
 
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