O.T. 2005 Nissan Altima SE-R!!!!

sweet said:
Toyota..no thanks....and will not even look at them :barf: MSPR for the 2742 Coupe 2D (Auto) $26,610.00
but I have driven the Chrysler 300C RWD V8 !:eek: what an amazing car at the price it is being sold at...power, comfort, room! (I need the extra room my 2-seater does not have) MSRP for the 300C AWD! $34,820.00
o.k $8210 difference but AWD, V8, style inside and out...Hemi ! Now I want the Magnum but wife wants the 300C :confused: same car except for body and interior
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Different strokes for different folks Sweet.:D ;) I love the styling on the Toyota but hate the new retro look of the new Chrysler!:barf:
I do like the 300M though and considered them for a while.
But the Japanese cars are more dependable with less trouble than the American made cars. If Chrysler Corp. had a better and more dependable transmission I would be on a 300M like a goos on a june bug!:D
 
Haven't looked into that particular car, but it's pretty good odds that the 300 is riding with a Japanese tranny in there.
 
sweet said:
Here is a good artical on the 300...I have to read it again but I think it said the tranny a Mercedes... but since they merged with Daimler that has all changed.
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And that's one reason I won't as I said above, ;)
Yvsa said:
That's strange Chris. We have a friend who is a Mercedes and BMW mechanic who says they are very fine machines and recommends them highly. He says he is always busy while the mechs at the Nissan Garage stand around most of the time.:)
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The fine machines being the Nissan.

The Toyota is looking better and better as I keep researching. Infinity has a car in our price range but it only comes with a 4 cyl and I want the 6 cyl for more potential longevity.
The gas milage and need for premium gas would be what keeps me from buying a higher horsepowered engine.:(
Hell, I had a '57 Ford 312 V-8 that got 22 mile per gallon on the road that was pretty fun to drive! You'd think there would be some improvement between performance and milage by now.:rolleyes:
Where's that 80 mpg carburator when you need one?:D ;)
 
loved the comments about mules, me fadderinlaw (half blackfoot, half rattlesnake and all mean) had a mule, usta chase, pluck & eat his chickens, mean critter it was, i wouldn't go use the outhouse if he was in that section of the field, no-one would.....as melvin liked the chickens more than the mule (they was fightin' chickens, the rooster ones anyway) the mule became mule-burgers. the mule was all for show to the revenoors anyhow as he made his money moonshinin'.

anyhow, in the end, buy the one you like, you're the one's gotta live with it & if you don't you will always wonder...or, like khuks, you could always buy one of each!
 
kronckew said:
anyhow, in the end, buy the one you like, you're the one's gotta live with it & if you don't you will always wonder...or, like khuks, you could always buy one of each!
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If I could afford one of each the car I want isn't listed; It would be the Infinity Q-35 hands down!!!!:eek: :D
 
If you do your part with scheduled maintenence then you shouldn't have any problems getting a quarter million miles out of that baby. My dad had a tercel that he used for work as an agricutlural inspector. He got 280K from that thing before selling it to a coworker who wanted a reliable dependable first car for his 16 yr old daughter.
My girlfriend had a leased Altima that had some problems(all warrantee work though) and she felt it would be better to go with Honda rather than buy it after the terms expired.
Personally I prefer Honda, but I don't think I've ever run across a Toyota owner that could offer a valid complaint over their value.
 
I have an 02 Altima 3.5....60000 miles and the only trouble I had was a bad headlight which nissan replaced....excellent,faster and better handling than any comparable Toyota product(they have no comparable product), good mileage, tires probably won't last long as they are soft compound but lots of fun. :D
 
My 2001 4cyl. Camry now has over 91,000 miles on it with no problems. It has decent acceleration and gets 30 on the highway, and 28 on the commute (country roads). I don't believe that the 6 cyl. will last longer. If anything, you may get more life out of the 4. My local dealer doesn't charge that much to change the timing belt, and the better gas mileage pays for this maintenance - and more.

Since this thread started, I got a Honda CR/V AWD. It gets about 27 mpg on the highway and has averaged about 25, including local, in town driving. I like the car, but ....There are only 2 things I hate about it. It has an interval wiper, but it is not variable. It also pulls to the right if the road is strongly crowned (some country roads). The alignment is not out, since you don't get this on flat roads, but this is a design issue that will probably be fixed by the '06 models.

If I didn't need the space, I'd have gotten another Camry - but with the 4 cyl engine. With gas prices so high, and soon to go higher, I wouldn't want a 6.

Yvsa - try driving Camry with a 4 cyl. You might find that it accelerates OK. I would not want one in the mountains, but if you are in a flat place, you don't need the extra power - unless you routinely carry full loads. I doubt that in a coupe.
 
I did leave out that my wife mostly uses the car to commute back and forth to work daily and averages about 25 mpg with the smokin' fast six so to me it is negligible difference and it depends on your priorities.
 
Well seeing as how this thread is six months old and I bought a Toyota Camry back in November that I posted about soon after everything is pretty much moot.:rolleyes:

We drove it to Phoenix a few months ago and then on down to Tucson and back to Oklahoma where we averaged better than 31 mpg for the whole trip and with todays gas prices steadily on the rise ------ yup, it's a matter of priorities.:p

We've been more than happy with our Camry and its 160 horse 4 cylinder is plenty enough to get this old man in trouble. I guess we all grow up as we get older -------- but maybe not.:rolleyes: :D

Arty said:
If I didn't need the space, I'd have gotten another Camry - but with the 4 cyl engine. With gas prices so high, and soon to go higher, I wouldn't want a 6.
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That was my thinking Arty.;) How are the eyes doing? :D

Arty said:
Yvsa - try driving Camry with a 4 cyl. You might find that it accelerates OK. I would not want one in the mountains, but if you are in a flat place, you don't need the extra power - unless you routinely carry full loads. I doubt that in a coupe.
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Arty the new 160 horse 4 cyl with the new 5 speed auto did just fine in the mountains around Flagstaff. We drove out of the Valley of the Sun at 70-80 mph with no lugging or hesitation and even though I left it in overdrive seldom did it downshift into fourth.
The only complaint I have with the Camry is the "mushy feeling" brakes. But that's all they are, just "mushy feeling." It's a matter of getting used to them as they do emergency stops just fine.
This is our first car with ABS and it was quite a thrill the first time I locked 'em up on dry payment and had 'em kick in.:D
I had prepared Barb for the sound the ABS makes one day when it rained and I was able to slam on the brakes starting a skid, having warned her what I was gonna do.
She didn't scream out, "WHAT'S THAT NOISE?" or eat a hole in the seat cushion when they had to be used.;) :D
Oh yeah! We bought the four door, another concession to getting older.;)
 
Yvsa said:
The only complaint I have with the Camry is the "mushy feeling" brakes. But that's all they are, just "mushy feeling."
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Most brakelines are made of rubber, which expands when you step on the brakes. If you install stainless steel braided lines, like those made by Goodridge, this would be cured instantaneously, and the braking ability of the car is enhanced too. No more mush! :D
 
Drdan said:
Most brakelines are made of rubber, which expands when you step on the brakes. If you install stainless steel braided lines, like those made by Goodridge, this would be cured instantaneously, and the braking ability of the car is enhanced too. No more mush! :D
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Dan I didn't know that!!!! :eek: Really? No Sh*t? ;) Just tzn Dan, really I'll have to check into it and see if I can afford it. Are the stainless braided lines expensive? Thanks for the tip!!!!:D :cool: :D
I can get one of my Uwinv's to put them on for me and bleed the brakes.:D
 
Yvsa:

Excellent choice. I have a 2001 Solara 4 cyl in the motor pool that my wife and youngest use. We bought it used, just off lease and a Toyota Certified used car for $13,350 with 38,000 miles on it. 50K now and counting, and only the charcoal cannister needed replaced, and it was on the Certified warranty. Plenty of pep from a very economical 4 cyl -- we get a solid 32 MPG, seemingly no matter what.

That said, IMO the Camry is a far more user-friendly choice because a two-door coupe is a PITA, even when you drive it solo. The trunk on a Solara is huge, but so is that on a Camry. The four doors of the Camry make it much more practical and convenient, and the new 4 cyl is just as economical and said to be more reliable.

I learned the benefit of well-made high output 4 cylinder engines from owning a string of Volvos, starting with a 1967 122. Then came a 68 144, a 78 245 wagon, an 84 244, and an 86 245 wagon that's still in the motor pool at a little over 300K. I wish they still made the 240, I'd buy a new one in a heartbeat. But today's Volvos are not like the 240s and the 740s, almost Volvos in name only. Way too expensive, and impossible to work on. In contrast, I could change a $16 timing belt on a B23 or B230 four cylinder in a 240 in just under an hour, open hood to close hood.

Things often work out for a reason, and IMO your 4 cyl Camry is one of them. It gives you a good balance of space and accomodation, comfort, versatility, economy, acceleration, and longevity. You chose wisely.

Miles of smiles, and happy trails.

Noah
 
I think that the new 2.4 engine must be a bit stronger and more efficient than the slightly smaller one in my older Camry. My Camry is a bit weak in trips across the mountains when we drive to the east coast.

I don't have ABS in my Camry and don't miss it. The brakes are great in the car. I am not so enthusiastic about the seats on the older base model. Until I got a cushion for the lower back, I thought that my back was out. I think that the newer models have lumbar support.

Re- cataract surgery. The surgery went fine. Vision is great. My distance vision is now fine in both eyes. I do have some lingering irritation in the lids of my right eye, but it is sure nice to be able to see again. I just wish that there were some way to fit a lens in the eye that would focus for near distances. I need to use reading glasses - and I just forked out money to get varifocal lenses to allow good reading at the computer.

I am tempted to go shooting this afternoon.
 
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