Off Topic: Giving a handgun as a wedding present

Great advice in this thread. If you are wanting to gift that pistol, I don't have one and I suppose I could find a woman to marry :D
 
I would love a pistol as a gift ,I don`t get to shoot as much as I would like .I think that would be a great gift for the right couple, maybe if they have the money and don`t already own one it might not be for them. I work construction as well and firearms come up often as a topic of conversation and if he did not go out and buy one at the urging/bragging of coworkers he must not have much interest. Also I should add my girl had always had a negative outlook on guns and hunting in general because of the media and her family; but when she and I met we talked and I took her shooting and now she loves guns,knives,camping,fishing all the stuff she was "told" to avoid.
God Bless America where the men can be men and the women can make up their own minds about what to like!
 
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Where is get that you have good intentions I would guess that if you ask this question on a forum full of knife and gun enthusiasts your responses will be mostly that it is a good idea. Now try asking the same question on a Tupperware forum and see what you get!
 
Keep in mind that a wedding gift (as opposed to a shower gift or a batchelor party gift) is supposed to be for the couple, for both him and her. You need to check if she's on board as well as if he's on board. If so, great. If not, you could have a situation where he thinks it's wonderful, and she's aghast. A wedding gift shouldn't cause their first fight as a married couple, not if you care about them.
 
SChief454 said:
Where is get that you have good intentions I would guess that if you ask this question on a forum full of knife and gun enthusiasts your responses will be mostly that it is a good idea. Now try asking the same question on a Tupperware forum and see what you get!
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See your point, but raise you one ;)

I say, get 'em the firearm, and encourage them to leave their stupid Tupperware forum and join this one, and thehighroad.

(for you hardcore tupperware enthusiasts, hobbyists, and collectors, PLEASE, that was just a joke!!!)
 
Take them shooting and give them training then give the gun as a 1st anniversary present :)
 
Wait a minute here...

if you're really gonna spend that kind of money, why not give them an Argonne Assault!

I mean, really, what couple wouldn't... wouldn't... wouldn't...

nevermind.
 
He sounds like the "Big, Dumb Puppy" type...I would not give him a gun until he had been out shooting a few times and proved he wasn't going to shoot out someones eye...
 
your officially invited to my wedding.
i dont even know when its going to be yet but when i figure out your invited

yes i think its a great gift especially with the trailing
 
Yes, that is a tough one... It would be an excellent gift for like minded folks such as you and the fellers and gals on this forum, but for regular hard working folk the toaster blender or cash would be best. They might freak if you give them a gun and as in the other post, god forbid something happens you will be to blame in the whole family and friends eyes forever.

Best leave it alone unless you raised him or her and they knew how to handle or grew up with it their whole lives. If not, then steer clear and don't push it on them. I have tried to get my brothers in laws and family into it, and if they don't get it, they never will. But my hunting buddies I grew up with since we were young bucks, would totally appreciate what that means. Heck, I would love it if my father in law did that for me, but he only knows how to put balls in a hole on the field. Ive only given and received from my father and we cherish every one, it's a lifetime bonding when something is passed from father to son and son to father. The comment, "what do I need a gun for"???? Stay away from it. He's not a gun guy and may never be...
 
I know I haven't described him well. Dumb no. He has is own successful business. More like naive to evil as I find some successful people to be disconnected to how others live and what they are capable of. Some lessons don't need to be learned the hard way.
1whobuys said:
He sounds like the "Big, Dumb Puppy" type...I would not give him a gun until he had been out shooting a few times and proved he wasn't going to shoot out someones eye...
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Why not get the custom shop to do a commemorative wedding cake knife ? Something they can use in the kitchen ... something that reflects your appreciation of quality too ...

The gun idea seems well covered by Trident777 ... I agree it is best avoided ...
 
idahoskunk said:
i don't like the way our current government is run or the laws they make or existing laws that they don't enforce. i'm a life nra member and a life long shooter.

be careful that you don't get caught up in this $hit. i have given many guns as gifts and passed down many family heirlooms of firearms.

maybe a gift certificate at your local sporting good store along with a hint.


"In the context of United States federal gun laws, a straw purchase is defined as any purchase from a dealer holding a Federal Firearms License where the buyer conducting the transaction is acting as a proxy for another person. The law does not distinguish between someone who is purchasing on behalf of a person who legally cannot purchase or possess a firearm, and one who is not.

In the United States, straw purchases are a felony violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 for both the straw purchaser (who can also be charged with lying on Federal Form 4473) and the ultimate possessor. One of the questions on Form 4473 is “I am the buyer of this firearm” and the purchaser must answer honestly yes or no, by checking the appropriate box in ink. However, purchase of a firearm as a bona fide gift for someone who can legally own such a firearm is permitted.[1]

Many gun shops have jointly participated in programs (such as: “Don’t Lie For The Other Guy”) to deter such purchases."
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Just gotta rain on the man's parade don't ya stinky.
 
idahoskunk said:
i don't like the way our current government is run or the laws they make or existing laws that they don't enforce. i'm a life nra member and a life long shooter.

be careful that you don't get caught up in this $hit. i have given many guns as gifts and passed down many family heirlooms of firearms.

maybe a gift certificate at your local sporting good store along with a hint.


"In the context of United States federal gun laws, a straw purchase is defined as any purchase from a dealer holding a Federal Firearms License where the buyer conducting the transaction is acting as a proxy for another person. The law does not distinguish between someone who is purchasing on behalf of a person who legally cannot purchase or possess a firearm, and one who is not.

In the United States, straw purchases are a felony violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 for both the straw purchaser (who can also be charged with lying on Federal Form 4473) and the ultimate possessor. One of the questions on Form 4473 is “I am the buyer of this firearm” and the purchaser must answer honestly yes or no, by checking the appropriate box in ink. However, purchase of a firearm as a bona fide gift for someone who can legally own such a firearm is permitted.[1]

Many gun shops have jointly participated in programs (such as: “Don’t Lie For The Other Guy”) to deter such purchases."
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Just to clarify, Skunk is right... gifting is NOT a problem... it's made even more clear in the following:

from the DoJ "ATF Firearms Regulations Reference Guide," a plain english ATF provided reference for understanding the law:

"Where a person purchases a firearm with the intent of making a gift of the firearm to another person, the person making the purchase is indeed the true purchaser. There is no straw purchaser in these instances. In the above exam- ple, if Mr. Jones had bought a firearm with his own money to give to Mr. Smith as a birthday present, Mr. Jones could lawfully have completed Form 4473. The use of gift certificates would also not fall within the category of straw pur- chases. The person redeeming the gift certificate would be the actual purchaser of the firearm and would be properly reflected as such in the dealer's records."

It's really all about being truthful about who the purchaser is. The purchaser is the person spending the money. A straw purchaser (assuming you are buying for someone "eligible") is given the money for the firearm by the other person, making the other person the "purchaser."

However, even some firearms store owners and workers get this wrong, and will shy away from selling to you, if you mention that it's a gift. I am more than happy, in those cases, to bring them back a copy of this very reference. We have to stand up for our rights.
 
personally the idea of a weapon as a gift is doubious to me.

i do like the idea of the training. maybe one can include it in a tour or some kind of adventure trip. it is something they can do togehter as a couple. and then they will surely come to a conclusion. get one, or maybe just say "it was fun but no thanks."

personally. i always find it very difficult to give back a present, even when i know the person is very layed back. for me a present is something someone put a lot ofthought in. and it feels like iam slapping him in the face. dunno. i am just wired like that. to put it in a nutshell: training / camp / etc good, gun as gift bad.
 
teclis22 said:
personally the idea of a weapon as a gift is doubious to me.

i do like the idea of the training. maybe one can include it in a tour or some kind of adventure trip. it is something they can do togehter as a couple. and then they will surely come to a conclusion. get one, or maybe just say "it was fun but no thanks."

personally. i always find it very difficult to give back a present, even when i know the person is very layed back. for me a present is something someone put a lot ofthought in. and it feels like iam slapping him in the face. dunno. i am just wired like that. to put it in a nutshell: training / camp / etc good, gun as gift bad.
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Society has placed a stigma on firearms and before that, other weapons, including bladed ones. If you go back and read pretty much any part of US history, and even history far beyond that, you'll find that they are always just a tool, often a valued tool. Only when governments get involved, with the intention toward tyranny, do weapons become demonized as part of the indoctrination. The pattern is repeating, and predictable.

We should learn lessons from history.
 
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