off topic: What new hunting rifle?

Garth Reckner said:
I am still a Remington guy and a huge fan of the Sendero. I do only have the earlier versions though. The two tone fluted barrels on the Sendero II just doesn't do it for me. The weight of the Sendero is an issue however I always figured I need to exercise more anyway so I chose to haul the extra weight.

Garth
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My Sendero 300win mag is the earlier black smooth heavy barrel with gray webbing HS Precision and my other two are the stainless fluted. I also have a rem 700 VSSF with a stainless heavy fluted barrel with a green/black webbing HS Prcision stock and it matches my stainless Senderos.
 
messer454 said:
Pretty sure they did away with the J lock awhile ago.
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That's good to know. The one I got last year didn't have it but it was only the receiver. I still see new rifles for sale with it. I guess they must be old stock.
 
I hunt east coast hardwoods so usually not to long of a shot. I normally bow hunt and love to get close and personal. I have learned to appreciate a heavy bullet that produces a big hole. So, I have been wanting a Marlin guide gun in 45-70 for awhile. Shooting 405 grains its basically driving tacks with nearly 1 oz of lead (405 grains = 0.925714286 ounces) and capable of long range if need be and with practice. Fairly light with quick target aquisition.

[video=youtube;VRvCC8ugCAw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRvCC8ugCAw[/video]
 
knife hunter said:
I hunt east coast hardwoods so usually not to long of a shot. I normally bow hunt and love to get close and personal. I have learned to appreciate a heavy bullet that produces a big hole. So, I have been wanting a Marlin guide gun in 45-70 for awhile. Shooting 405 grains its basically driving tacks with nearly 1 oz of lead (405 grains = 0.925714286 ounces) and capable of long range if need be and with practice.

[video]http://www.popscreen.com/v/5YGiq/Marlin-Guide-Gun-4570[/video]
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I traded for one in stainless/laminate a couple years ago and it was a awesome rifle but kicked like mule do to being so light! I traded it for a Remington 700 CDL 270wsm and kinda wish I would've kept the 45-70 due to the cool factor. You should look into big caliber handgun hunting sometime. I have been wanting to give it a try on the stands where I don't have a long shot on but haven't gone through with it.
 
infocus2006 said:
I traded for one in stainless/laminate a couple years ago and it was a awesome rifle but kicked like mule do to being so light! I traded it for a Remington 700 CDL 270wsm and kinda wish I would've kept the 45-70 due to the cool factor. You should look into big caliber handgun hunting sometime. I have been wanting to give it a try on the stands where I don't have a long shot on but haven't gone through with it.
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My first hand gun was a S&W model k stainless in .41mag with 6" barrell. I got it 23 years ago. I used it quite a bit and could dril coke and oil cans out t0 40-50 yards fairly easy and consistently two handed single action. FUnny story, I was hunting few years later one fall cold morning. Great stand in set of hardwoods. I had a bunch of does come up on me and although I had my S&W 1700ls bolt in 270. I pulled the pistol. I one handed the first doe broadside at 30-40 yrds.,,blam. I just knew she would pile up. I turned on another to right about 50 and blam. I got ring from my friend. Im like oh man I got two!! Well, I got down little later went to looking and no blood. Im bewildered. I lookedd for what seemed like 1/2 a day. I pulled gun out right before getting back to p/u. I shot at big huge oak at about 20-25 and missed.:EEK:

It was my winter gloves!:thumbup:

took my glove off. Tried it again. Dead center. Needless, to say I learned a hard lesson the hard way.

I have a ruger blackhawk now in .44Mag and I do look to do it again. As of today. Its the only weapon typical of taking deer that I havent scored with but I hope to change that asap:cool::D
 
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sjakh said:
3rd the ruger american. Got mine in. 308. Free floated, bedded receiver, lightweight. Under $375. You could spend hundreds more but get very little in return for a dedicated hunter.
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Just looked at these again last night. Seems to be a great value. But have never shot one so i will reserve final judgement til then.

Garth
 
First of all: I'm no expert, but I'm definitely no slouch behind a rifle.

I had a Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact in 6.8 spc. Out of the box it was shooting 6-7" groups at 100 yds. That was the best I could get out of a LARGE assortment of factory ammo. I spoke with Ruger about it and they said that 2" group at 50 yds was acceptable as far as their standards go for that rifle. Yup. I was shocked. I guess it goes back to the whole "4 inches at 100yds is enough to kill a deer" mentality. If Ruger advertised 4moa do you think they would sell many rifles? Nope. That is why they don't advertise their standards. Anyway, long story short I sent it back to ruger and the very best I could get out of it was 1.75" at 100 yds. I love a ruger 10/22 but the experience with that centerfire soured me on Ruger rifles. Can't speak to the Ruger 'American'.

I have a Winchester 70 Sporter in 300 win mag. Love it. Tack driver. Not picky on ammo. Light weight. Killed several deer with it both close and far. Good for brush and long range.

Just picked up a Rem 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD because I want to have a bolt gun to compliment my AR-10 for suppressor use. Haven't shot it yet. Excited to start a long journey of reloading subsonic and hunting rounds. I don't plan on using it for hunting all the time because it seems heavy, but I'd like to kill a deer with a suppressor just because. If it is as quiet as I'd heard it can be, I hear hogs don't spook so quickly so I may be able to get a couple by the time they realize they're being shot at...

So, in closing, I'd say just go with the Model 70. Tried and true, get an heirloom quality rifle, give it some field character, and hand it down...
Steve
 
Yeah, the M77s seem to be hit or miss if they're truly accurate or not. I would have still complained enough and sent the rifle in and had it re barreled.

Weatherby did the same thing to our shop back in the day. Guy had a 300 Weatherby mag and couldn't get it to shoot under 4", we sent it back 3 times, twice they re barreled it, and the final time they sent us a note saying their rifles were hunting rifles, not target rifles. But, if Weatherby didn't have their heads up their ars, they'd know that a good hunting rifle has to be accurate.

Never been a Remington person on their rifles, same with the Winchesters. Just never did anything for me. Seen some that shoot great, seen some that shoots like hell.

CZ makes a hell of a rifle, but good luck getting one of those 550s. I've had a 550 in 308 ordered for a guy since last July, and every time we call then wondering where it is (should have been here last November), they keep telling us a farther out date.


Another rifle that you should consider would be an A-Bolt or X-Bolt. Browning makes great rifles.
 
I really do like the a bolt, x bolt and older bbr. Browning makes great rifles.

Just noticed that the featherweight is more common in 30-06 which is fine. So let's say caliber wise its limited to 30-06 and 308. I'm looking to spend $1000 or less on the rifle and around $500 on the scope and mounts. I'm kind of thinking a fixed power around 4 to 6x. If variable I tend to like the 2.5/7. I'm thinking Leopold, but there are others that I like.

On the lever gun thing. I absolutely love them and plan to add a 94 or guide gun to the safe this year if I can avoid buying to many more Busse blades.
 
Just discovered the CZ 550 Ultimate Hunting Rifle. Guaranteed MOA out to 600 yards. List at $1300 in wood, so a bit spendy, but nice. Wish it was in 30-06 or 308 tho. What kind of accuracy are people getting out of normal cz rifles?
 
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gixxer1237 said:
Just discovered the CZ 550 Ultimate Hunting Rifle. Guaranteed MOA out to 600 yards. List at $1300 in wood, so a bit spendy, but nice. Wish it was in 30-06 or 308 tho. What kind of accuracy are people getting out of normal cz rifles?
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Guaranteed MOA at 600 yards sounds great until you realize it is a guaranteed 6 inch group.

That being said, I do like the CZ550 varmint. It is a nice shooter in 22-250. No experience with other models.
 
Very few shooters can hold 1 MOA. Not saying none, but maybe 1 in 5. I have to believe most of us are more avid shooters with a better skill set. If a shooter can hold MOA to 1000 yards they are beyond good. My first match was at reduced targets at 600. I scored a 789 out of 800 with 36 x hits my maybe 8". The winner shot a 792 with 13 x. That means all rounds hit within a 7" circle. He was shooting a 1/4 moa gun(Tac Ops). So for a hunting rifle to hold 1 moa is great. Could it do that over 88 rounds? Probably not. I know weatherby guarantees 1 moa and I believe .5 on some models. Savage makes shooters as well, but I had a issue with my first rifle and won't own another. I'm not going to bad mouth em, as it was my and there mistake. They just lost my confidence.
 
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I would go against a fixed power scope for hunting, definitely go variable. You're not stuck with magnification when you could really use less
 
With all the focus on tacti hi cap rifles, there are some deals on the classics. Win 94, win70, 740 and 742 wood masters, etc. 30-30 and 30.06 works as well as the shooter
 
My Pre war Win94 has killed more deer than I care to count! It is accurate and looks super cool!
 
I've used variables on all my rifles. You know hunting I just set it at its lowest power and never changed it. I don't know, just wanted it ultra simple.

Barrett mead would be awesome. I keep coming back to 3 rifles realisticly. The 700 SPS Tac, the M70 featherweight, and the A_bolt. The only reason the remmy is in the running is cause I know what I can make it into. But I'm currently out of the comp game, but it's always in the back of my mind. Just ends up being a expensive endeavour.
 
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