*Official 2018 BF Knive: Poll 1/8: 2 Blades (Jack), 2 Blades or 3 Blades

Buck 301: How many blades?

  • 2 Blades OPPOSITE ends: Clip & Spey

    Votes: 5 1.5%

  • 2 Blades OPPOSITE ends: Clip & Sheepsfoot

    Votes: 169 49.4%

  • 2 Blades SAME end: Clip & Spey

    Votes: 7 2.0%

  • 2 Blades SAME end: Clip & Sheepsfoot

    Votes: 34 9.9%

  • 3 Blades: Clip, Spey, Sheepsfoot

    Votes: 127 37.1%
  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
Just a random thought. People keep wondering about Price? What will it be? Well, in all reality, it's going to be about $100. Why do I say this? Because this knife will get pushed to that limit. It's already been seen in the steel choice. People said, it's the highest quality that will retain the tang stamp (also the most expensive that will retain the tang stamp). I get the feeling that on handle material, people will say, how nice can we make it for $100 dollars. If we're sitting at a $90 knife and we find we can do grooved bolsters for $100, for example, the people will say "grooved bolsters!" and raise it. So that is my prediction, $100.
 
The 2015 knife has come up a few times. A 3 blade stockman with square bolsters was also a previous forum knife. That has been mentioned much less. I think I may be the only one that mentioned it in any of the topics... could have missed something though. So a double-end jack AND a 3-blade stockman have both been previous forum knives. Jacks have also been done on different handles.

It seems that there's some campaigning going on. But maybe we could take an objective look at the top options.

Stockman
(Positives)
1. Iconic Buck 300 series knife
(Negatives)
1. 3 springs instead of 2 (this could be argued as minus or a plus)
2. Regular production pattern that is readily available for less than half a forum knife would cost
3. A premium 301 with premium steel already exists. It was made for BCCI. You can buy it now.
4. A stockman was a previous forum knife

2-blade Jack (same side)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
3. Less expensive than 3-blades
(Negatives)
1. No liner, washer, or spring between the two blades
2. Since the main blade is also short, both blades would be shorter than the handle and there would be empty space on one end

2-blade double-end Jack (opposite sides)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Less expensive than 3-blades
(Negatives)
1. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
2. A double end jack was a previous forum knife (except it had a more typical single spring)
 
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Enjoying the debate, opinions, facts and the horse race it has become. Very happy to see so many comments about how members will purchase the final product whatever the voting outcome. Now that is community!

Thanks to all who are working on this project. Looking forward to the sample pictures. That may sway votes more than anything else.

A picture is worth a thousand words and maybe in this case a $100.00.

,,,Mike in Canada
 
supratentorial said:
Stockman
(Positives)
1. Iconic Buck 300 series knife
(Negatives)
1. 3 springs instead of 2 (this could be argued as minus or a plus)
2. Regular production pattern that is readily available for less than half a forum knife would cost
3. A premium 301 with premium steel already exists. It was made for BCCI. You can buy it now.
4. A stockman was a previous forum knife

2-blade Jack (same side)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
(Negatives)
1. No liner, washer, or spring between the two blades
2. Since the main blade is also short, both blades would be shorter than the handle and there would be empty space on one end

2-blade double-end Jack (opposite sides)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 though it's a classic pattern
(Negatives)
1. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
2. A double end jack was a previous forum knife (except it had a more typical single spring)
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Good summary Jake :thumbsup: For me, the issue is not just that we've previously (and fairly recently) had a double-end jack, but it had the identical blade configuration of Clip and Sheepsfoot.
 
Jack Black said:
Good summary Jake :thumbsup: For me, the issue is not just that we've previously (and fairly recently) had a double-end jack, but it had the identical blade configuration of Clip and Sheepsfoot.
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That does seem to be a trend in general. GEC is swapping pen blades and spey blades for coping blades and Wharncliffe blades on many patterns. But it goes back before GEC. People were reshaping spey blades into Wharncliffes or sheepfoots or coping blades by grinding. Custom knife makers were doing similar blade changes. There have been 2 topics in the past few days looking for knives with this combination of blades. It seems to be growing in popularity.

The spey blade option didn't get many votes. Point taken though.
 
To me it doesn't matter what the pattern was on previous forum knives. There are many many guys and gals here that weren't here for previous years knives and are voting as they see fit and for what they want. Some of them may vote two blades same end, two blades opposite ends, stockman, or whatever but whatever the outcome of the poll that is what we should go with regardless of what pattern has been used in the past.
 
supratentorial said:
That does seem to be a trend in general. GEC is swapping pen blades and spey blades for coping blades and Wharncliffe blades on many patterns. But it goes back before GEC. People were reshaping spey blades into Wharncliffes or sheepfoots or coping blades by grinding. Custom knife makers were doing similar blade changes. There have been 2 topics in the past few days looking for knives with this combination of blades. It seems to be growing in popularity.

The spey blade option didn't get many votes. Point taken though.
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Yes, fashions come and go, as you know Jake. When I first posting here, it seemed Cattle Knives were very hot, and Wharncliffe Blades favoured over Sheepsfoot blades. Barlows were rarely seen :eek: :thumbsup:
 
supratentorial said:
The 2015 knife has come up a few times. A 3 blade stockman with square bolsters was also a previous forum knife. That has been mentioned much less. I think I may be the only one that mentioned it in any of the topics... could have missed something though. So a double-end jack AND a 3-blade stockman have both been previous forum knives. Jacks have also been done on different handles.

It seems that there's some campaigning going on. But maybe we could take an objective look at the top options.

Stockman
(Positives)
1. Iconic Buck 300 series knife
(Negatives)
1. 3 springs instead of 2 (this could be argued as minus or a plus)
2. Regular production pattern that is readily available for less than half a forum knife would cost
3. A premium 301 with premium steel already exists. It was made for BCCI. You can buy it now.
4. A stockman was a previous forum knife

2-blade Jack (same side)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
(Negatives)
1. No liner, washer, or spring between the two blades
2. Since the main blade is also short, both blades would be shorter than the handle and there would be empty space on one end

2-blade double-end Jack (opposite sides)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 though it's a classic pattern
(Negatives)
1. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
2. A double end jack was a previous forum knife (except it had a more typical single spring)
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All excellent points regarding all 3 leading options. I do think the reminder that there has been both a 2 blade and 3 blade BF knife in the past is important.

If I may add a "positive" for both 2 blade options: it has already been stated that this would save cost vs the 3 blade. I'm not sure the amount, but I am sure that whatever the savings are will allow some more room for better handles.

That is why I'm pulling for a two blade option.
 
I’m envisioning a two bladed, opposite end knife to be a 309 on steroids, albeit with a sheepsfoot blade instead of a secondary pen.

I see that the 3 bladed stockman is gaining ground and the real possibility of a virtual tie exists. What, if any, contingency is in place to break the tie? I’m not in any way, complaining, just wanted to put this out there so we could have a solution in place.

John
 
supratentorial said:
The 2015 knife has come up a few times. A 3 blade stockman with square bolsters was also a previous forum knife. That has been mentioned much less. I think I may be the only one that mentioned it in any of the topics... could have missed something though. So a double-end jack AND a 3-blade stockman have both been previous forum knives. Jacks have also been done on different handles.

It seems that there's some campaigning going on. But maybe we could take an objective look at the top options.

Stockman
(Positives)
1. Iconic Buck 300 series knife
(Negatives)
1. 3 springs instead of 2 (this could be argued as minus or a plus)
2. Regular production pattern that is readily available for less than half a forum knife would cost
3. A premium 301 with premium steel already exists. It was made for BCCI. You can buy it now.
4. A stockman was a previous forum knife

2-blade Jack (same side)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
3. Less expensive than 3-blades
(Negatives)
1. No liner, washer, or spring between the two blades
2. Since the main blade is also short, both blades would be shorter than the handle and there would be empty space on one end

2-blade double-end Jack (opposite sides)
(Positives)
1. New for the 300 series though it's a classic pattern
2. Less expensive than 3-blades
(Negatives)
1. Jacks with 2 springs are typically same side (though present day manufacturing sometimes puts each blade on a separate spring).
2. A double end jack was a previous forum knife (except it had a more typical single spring)
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One more positive for the 2 blade same end Jack is that this config. has never been a forum knife. (in this pattern)
 
Sadly it seems pretty clear that the two-blade same-end jack is going to happen. The numbers keep going down every time I check this thread (which I assume means folks are re-voting for their second favorite between the opposite-end and the three-blade option). I'm not sure which of those I would prefer; I had a strong preference for the same-end jack. But hey, that's the way this thing works. :thumbsup:
 
btb01 said:
Sadly it seems pretty clear that the two-blade same-end jack is going to happen. The numbers keep going down every time I check this thread (which I assume means folks are re-voting for their second favorite between the opposite-end and the three-blade option). I'm not sure which of those I would prefer; I had a strong preference for the same-end jack. But hey, that's the way this thing works. :thumbsup:
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The game is not over yet! :)
 
Jolipapa said:
The game is not over yet! :)
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This is true, but unless there's a secret two-blade same-end resistance movement of 100+ members waiting until the last minute to cast their votes, it's not looking good. :D
 
I haven't been on in a while and just saw this for the first time. I like where it's headed. I've had a few forum knives and am glad to see this is still going. I'm in for one, especially with the steel choice.

Also, I voted the same configuration as the CS a few years back. I was excited for that one, but the clip blade was ground to such a recurve that I hated it and quickly sold it. Hoping Buck can make one look better and I like the square ends better.
 
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