OK guy lets make the list

Doh! I forgot some stuff...I'm not smart enough to copy that list, so I'll just put them here by their lonesome.

9" angle grinder for grinding scale off damascus billets
low-temp salt bath
propane torches
propane cylinders (from camper size to 100 pounders)
table saw
wood chop saw
wood band saw
radial arm saw

Want:
water jet cutter (in my best Austin Powers voice "YEA BABY!!!")
Pantograph
Engraving set-up with microscope
Tom Clark's new 180lb. Air Hammer
Nazel 2b and a Nazel 5b (for when I want to crush VW's like pop-cans)
Cyclone dust collector
High out-put flourescent fixtures with daylight bulbs every 3 feet on my ceiling
440lb Nimba made Anvil
Rolling mill
professional sword polisher that works for peanuts
drawers with heavy duty bb slides under all my workbenches

Until I can think of more I guess this will do ;)
Nick
 
Dan Gray said:
hey you guys
this stuff is suppose to be all added together for the
ultimate knife shop :)

Chuck has a good number going :)
ok some of this stuff is listed more that once..
feel free to edit this... list..to add more :)

Leather apron
Trend Airshield
Didymium glasses
gloves
fire extinguisher
ventilating system
First aid cabinet
post vise
table saw-wood
band saw-wood
drying cabinet
vacuum casting outfit
micro torch system
Sharpening stones,laps,hones,etc.
12" grinding wheels
Beer cooler
Rockwell hardness tester :)
CNC mill
CNC lathe
100# Little Giant
variable speed Bader lll
metal cutting bandsaw
drill press
Rotary table for the mill
collet indexer
2X72 variable speed, for hollow grinding
2X72 variable speed, for flat grinding
2X72 variable grinder with small wheel attachment
2X72 variable grinder with Rob Frink rotary platen
9" disc (variable/reversing)
12" disc
16" Disc Grinder
Surface grinder
Surface Conditioner
Drum Sander
BOSS oscillating spindle sander
Die Grinder
Dremel tool
400,000 rpm rotary tool
Right Angle Grinders
Metal cutting bandsaw
Wood cutting bandsaw with carbide tipped blade
Table saw
Chop saw
Beverly Shear
Welding /Cutting:
MIG welder
Plasma cutter
Oxy/Ace torch
Heavy Machining Tools
Mill
Mini Mill
Drill Presses
Metal lathe
Wood lathe
Granite surface plates
Height gage
Calipers
Micrometers
Forge with Digital Pyrometer
Hydraulic forging press
Air Hammer
Anvil
Hammers
Tongs
Several bench vises
Metal fab table
Solid workbenches
5 gallon quenching tank
Digitally controlled salt bath
Heat Treat Oven
Quench Plates
Buffers
Sand-blast cabinet
Air compressor
Variable DC Power Supply
Spectrometer for identifying metals
oxy/acetelene torch
arc welder
(MIG, TIG, etc)
lots of Hammers
Frink rotary platen
9" disc (variable/reversing)
12" disc
Surface grinder
horz Mill
Drill PressES
several bench vises
lathe, turit
lathe, Engine
drill indexs numbered, frac, and lettered
Reamers
buffers
metal cutting bandsaw
chop saw
sand-blast cabinet
air compressor
MIG welder
metal fab table
several solid workbenches
digitally controlled salt bath
forge
anvil
hammers
hydraulic forging press
lots of tongs
granite surface plate
height gage
calipers
files galore
optivisors
hand drills
leather working tools
boxes of abrasive paper
rows of belts
BOSS oscilating spindle sander
Dremel tool
56,000 rpm rotary tool
400,000 rpm rotary tool
shoulder filing guide
sharpening stones
etching machine
utility sink
5 gallon quenching tank
Air hammer
anvil 50# 100# 150# 200#
digitally controlled oven
belt grinder (KMG)
TIG welder
Sandblaster
LN dewar
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ADD: Tippman Boss Leather Stitcher
Heated,recirculating 10 gallon quench tank
30 gallon slack tub
 
I think everythings been listed except the 2 most important:

New Bass Boat
New pickup

These are for stress relief, every good profession needs one. ;)

Bill
 
all added up
:)

feel free to edit this... list..to add more it's adding up

Leather apron
Trend Airshield
Didymium glasses
gloves
fire extinguisher
ventilating system
First aid cabinet
post vise
table saw-wood
band saw-wood
drying cabinet
vacuum casting outfit
micro torch system
Sharpening stones,laps,hones,etc.
12" grinding wheels
Beer cooler
Rockwell hardness tester
CNC mill
CNC lathe
100# Little Giant
variable speed Bader lll
metal cutting bandsaw
drill press
Rotary table for the mill
collet indexer
2X72 variable speed, for hollow grinding
2X72 variable speed, for flat grinding
2X72 variable grinder with small wheel attachment
2X72 variable grinder with Rob Frink rotary platen
9" disc (variable/reversing)
12" disc
16" Disc Grinder
Surface grinder
Surface Conditioner
Drum Sander
BOSS oscillating spindle sander
Die Grinder
Dremel tool
400,000 rpm rotary tool
Right Angle Grinders
Metal cutting bandsaw
Wood cutting bandsaw with carbide tipped blade
Table saw
Chop saw
Beverly Shear
Welding /Cutting:
MIG welder
Plasma cutter
Oxy/Ace torch
Heavy Machining Tools
Mill
Mini Mill
Drill Presses
Metal lathe
Wood lathe
Granite surface plates
Height gage
Calipers
Micrometers
Forge with Digital Pyrometer
Hydraulic forging press
Air Hammer
Anvil
Hammers
Tongs
Several bench vises
Metal fab table
Solid workbenches
5 gallon quenching tank
Digitally controlled salt bath
Heat Treat Oven
Quench Plates
Buffers
Sand-blast cabinet
Air compressor
Variable DC Power Supply
Spectrometer for identifying metals
oxy/acetelene torch
arc welder
(MIG, TIG, etc)
lots of Hammers
Frink rotary platen
9" disc (variable/reversing)
12" disc
Surface grinder
horz Mill
Drill PressES
several bench vises
lathe, turit
lathe, Engine
drill indexs numbered, frac, and lettered
Reamers
buffers
metal cutting bandsaw
chop saw
sand-blast cabinet
air compressor
MIG welder
metal fab table
several solid workbenches
digitally controlled salt bath
forge
anvil
hammers
hydraulic forging press
lots of tongs
granite surface plate
height gage
calipers
files galore
optivisors
hand drills
leather working tools
boxes of abrasive paper
rows of belts
BOSS oscilating spindle sander
Dremel tool
56,000 rpm rotary tool
400,000 rpm rotary tool
shoulder filing guide
sharpening stones
etching machine
utility sink
5 gallon quenching tank
Air hammer
anvil 50# 100# 150# 200#
digitally controlled oven
belt grinder (KMG)
TIG welder
Sandblaster
LN dewar
9" angle grinder for grinding scale off damascus billets
low-temp salt bath
propane torches
propane cylinders (from camper size to 100 pounders)
table saw
wood chop saw
wood band saw
radial arm saw
water jet cutter
Pantograph
Engraving set-up with microscope
Tom Clark's new 180lb. Air Hammer
Nazel 2b and a Nazel 5b (for when I want to crush VW's like pop-cans)
Cyclone dust collector
High out-put flourescent fixtures with daylight bulbs every 3 feet on my ceiling
440lb Nimba made Anvil
Rolling mill
professional sword polisher that works for peanuts
drawers with heavy duty bb slides under all my workbenches
Tippman Boss Leather Stitcher
Heated,recirculating 10 gallon quench tank
30 gallon slack tub
Tippman Boss Leather Stitcher
Heated,recirculating 10 gallon quench tank
30 gallon slack tub
"New Bass Boat
New pickup These are for stress relief"
 
Hey guys, I have a few questions after looking over this awesome shop list...some of these things I just don't seem to know what they're used for and was wondering if some of you could clarify a few points on them?

1. Rotary table for the mill - what's it good for in Knifemaking? ...or in general? I've always wondered about a rotary table, but couldn't figure out what I'd use it for!

2. collet indexer - ok again, what can it be used for in knifemaking...I guess on this one I have to plead ignorance, I'm not even sure what it is.

3. Surface Conditioner - ? what is a surface conditioner?

4. Wood cutting bandsaw with carbide tipped blade - what is this used for? Cutting titanium? ...If so, couldn't you do the same thing by just stripping the teeth off of a regular blade? Or is the carbide tipped blade really the cats meow?

5. Beverly Shear - How can this be used in Knifemaking? Any benefits to this that a horizontal bandsaw or chop saw can't solve?

6. BOSS oscillating spindle sander - I've got a Rob Frink Horizontal grinder, how can a BOSS oscillating spindle sander be used in ways that differ from the wheel/table arrangement on the horizontal grinder. I've actually got an oscillating spindle sander, but never thought of using it for knifemaking since I've got the horizontal grinder....looking for ideas! :)

7. 16" Disc Grinder - why so big? I've got 4 horizontal 9" disc sanders and a 12" vertical disc grinder, what can the 16" version do that the smaller ones can't?

8. TIG welder - what benefits would a TIG welder pose (in Knifemaking) over a MIG welder?

9. Pantograph - I've heard of them, but haven't a clue what they are used for in knifemaking! Or, really in general... Can someone clue me in, and possibly post a link to some specific models?

Thanks guys, I appreciate whoever takes the time to educate me on these things for taking the time...

:)

-Darren
 
I'd choose the TIG just because in my limited experience so far I'm much better with it than a MIG or stick welder Darren :D

So far looking this over, I can't think of anything to really add, but its kind of depressing seeing all the things I'll never own :grumpy: ;)
 
I might have overlooked them, but what about files? You have to get a file for every task possible.

And hammers! I've got more weird hammers than I can shake a stick at.
 
Bill B- I 'bout fell off the chair laughing...good call my friend, gotta have stress relief!

Mike- Even with all the outrageous crap I listed, I did list files ;) My file rack looks a lot like yours!

Darren- I would use a TIG welder building equipment because I'm a freak and want everything to be presentation grade. Mostly though, I would use it to TIG weld 416 ss all metal sheaths and 416 for tip & throat sheaths.

The Pantograph can be used to do things like Engrave your name in the blade (like Lake does) and do inlays.

I bought the spindle sander before I had the small wheel attachment for my Burr King...if I had an edge sander I wouldn't have bought it. I have used it a lot for doing "S" bolsters though.

Chuck could better answer you on the surface conditioner, because he has one! But the quick and dirty of it: Imagine a belt fed abrasive planer (a big one) but instead of abrasive rolls, it has "fingers" that come down and "kiss" what you feed through it. You get a very nice "conditioned" surface with it. It's what the Bybees use to prep Titanium before they ship it out.

Nick
 
Rotary table would be good for milling curved slots in handles, or perhaps a curve at th ejoint between bolster and scales. Also good if you want to make a pocket for an inlay in a handle.

A collet indexer would be useful for making custom tooled pivots for folders like Alan Elishewitz does on some of his folders. You could use a rotary table for this with a lathe chuck mounted on it, but a collet indexer would be easier.

A Pantograph is like a light milling machine that has a tracer attachment. You make a form and then can transfer the shape from the form to a workpiece. You can make a complex form out of a softer material that is easier to work with like wood, plastic or even clay, then transfer that shape repeatably to metal. There is a tracer stylus that is run over the pattern and causes the rotating cutter to move the same way on th eworkpiece. Some pantographs are 2d in that they will only move in two axes (x and Y) whereas other pantographs will trace a 3d pattern (X, Y and Z axis movement). A 2d pantograph is a great tool for making odd shaped pockets for inlays. Think of the machines at the mall where they custom engrave letters on a license plate frame. That's a 2d pantograph. A 3d pantograph can be used for full on metal sculpting in 3 dmiensions. Most pantographs also have a scaling feature. This would allow you to make the master form pattern large so you could easily make an intricate shape and then execute it on a small scale on the workpiece.

John
 
Man, I can see I need to get some more equipment, sheesh! All I've got is a 2x72 Coote
homebuilt power hammer
a chunk of steel for an anvil
a three in on Mill/drill/lathe
asorted hand tools. :eek:
 
*Looks sadly at vise, hacksaw, drill and set of files.*

Stop depressing me, guys!!!
 
Darren Ellis said:
Hey guys, I have a few questions after looking over this awesome shop list...some of these things I just don't seem to know what they're used for and was wondering if some of you could clarify a few points on them?

1. Rotary table for the mill - what's it good for in Knifemaking? ...or in general? I've always wondered about a rotary table, but couldn't figure out what I'd use it for!

2. collet indexer - ok again, what can it be used for in knifemaking...I guess on this one I have to plead ignorance, I'm not even sure what it is.

3. Surface Conditioner - ? what is a surface conditioner?

4. Wood cutting bandsaw with carbide tipped blade - what is this used for? Cutting titanium? ...If so, couldn't you do the same thing by just stripping the teeth off of a regular blade? Or is the carbide tipped blade really the cats meow?

5. Beverly Shear - How can this be used in Knifemaking? Any benefits to this that a horizontal bandsaw or chop saw can't solve?

6. BOSS oscillating spindle sander - I've got a Rob Frink Horizontal grinder, how can a BOSS oscillating spindle sander be used in ways that differ from the wheel/table arrangement on the horizontal grinder. I've actually got an oscillating spindle sander, but never thought of using it for knifemaking since I've got the horizontal grinder....looking for ideas! :)

7. 16" Disc Grinder - why so big? I've got 4 horizontal 9" disc sanders and a 12" vertical disc grinder, what can the 16" version do that the smaller ones can't?

8. TIG welder - what benefits would a TIG welder pose (in Knifemaking) over a MIG welder?

9. Pantograph - I've heard of them, but haven't a clue what they are used for in knifemaking! Or, really in general... Can someone clue me in, and possibly post a link to some specific models?

Thanks guys, I appreciate whoever takes the time to educate me on these things for taking the time...

:)

-Darren
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Wood cutting band saw with a carbide blade is for cutting handle material and especially hard items like giraffe bone ,walrus,ivory,and oosik.Pantograph is for enlarging and reducing drawings.An engraving pantograph is for engraving on the blades.A pantograph on a milling maghine does the same thing but mills instead of engraves.Yes,the wood slicer carbide tipped bandsaw blades are the cats meow.They cut even the hardest woods perfectly.If you are trimming the excess off the handle after glue up,and bump the tang,you haven't ruined the blade.Bigger sanders,spindle sanders,and fancy welders are just wish list items.Most makers get by fine with the same equipment that you use.I think a lot of the items are in the"If I could have anything,money is not an object" catagory.
 
YuriM said:
*Looks sadly at vise, hacksaw, drill and set of files.*

Stop depressing me, guys!!!
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A good smith needs only a hammer,a fire,a bucket of water,an anvil of some sort, a piece of steel to shape,and something to hold the steel with.That plus a few hand tools and abrasives have turned out ledgendary blades for a thousand years.Don't dispair this huge list.Few,if any,will have all of this.Most won't need many of the specialty items.While multiple tools are a great thing,one grinder,power hammer,etc. will suffice.I think anyone with five belt sanders should donate one to a new maker who has none!I was,however,a little suprised at how many of these items I had (no multiples).No wonder I'm broke all the time!
 
bladsmth said:
I was,however,a little suprised at how many of these items I had (no multiples).No wonder I'm broke all the time!
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Just boy toys with a will to make it not buy it..:D ;)
 
Come on guys, you're making me feel real BAD! I used to think I had a pretty well equipped shop. Now I feel---wait, I feel a draft------yikes, I"m naked!

Gonna have to ask the boss for another raise..............bet I know what she'll say :D

mike
 
Darren Ellis said:
3. Surface Conditioner - ? what is a surface conditioner?
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Nick described the surface conditioner very well. It leaves a shiny stone washed finish. The brush is about 10" diameter and has nylon bristles coated with silicone carbide. It does not remove material but cleans surfaces like nobody's business. The surface does not have to be flat because the flexible bristles.
Performax SuperBrush 36

Darren Ellis said:
4. Wood cutting bandsaw with carbide tipped blade - what is this used for? Cutting titanium? ...If so, couldn't you do the same thing by just stripping the teeth off of a regular blade? Or is the carbide tipped blade really the cats meow?
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A carbide tipped bandsaw is amazing. bladsmth is correct. It cuts hard materials very well. We have worn out three bi-metal bandsaw blades in a day cutting ironwood. A carbide blade lasts for months! A carbide blade will remove 1/2 tooth width of material. A sharp bi-metal blade moves to the outside of the wood and doesn't cut. If you decide to buy this blade make sure you get the correct thickness to fit your bandsaw. Our first two blades were too thick and broke within 4 hours. The blade we use is 1"x.035" with 3/4 Varitooth.
Lenox Tri-Master

We do not use a carbide tooth blade for titanium. Instead we use a carbide grit blade.

Both types of blades are made by Lenox and are very expensive. They are well worth the money.

Darren Ellis said:
5. Beverly Shear - How can this be used in Knifemaking? Any benefits to this that a horizontal bandsaw or chop saw can't solve?
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The Beverly B3 is a timesaver. Once you have used one it is hard to work without it. Right now I don't have one. :(
Beverly B3 Shear

Darren Ellis said:
7. 16" Disc Grinder - why so big? I've got 4 horizontal 9" disc sanders and a 12" vertical disc grinder, what can the 16" version do that the smaller ones can't?
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We have 9" and 12" disc sanders also. A larger disc sander has a heavier (hopefully steel or cast iron) disc and larger motor. The two combined make a disc sander that is almost impossible to stop. The standard knife handle is 5" long. On a 12" disc you have 1" to spare. On a 16" you have three inches to spare. I've used 24" disc sander but felt it was too big.

I don't know who makes a 16" disc sander, but I have seen them around. If anyone know where I can buy one please let me know.

===========================

Another tool I'd like to add is an Iron Worker.
Peddinghaus Ironworker
 
You guys forgot the most-important accessory:

Beer.jpg
 
Thanks everybody for educating me on the uses of some of those tools I didn't have a clue about!

Chuck, an ironworker shear/punch is on my short list too. With the fabrication work I've gotten into lately with forges and the soon to come line of heat treat ovens and box forges for the blacksmithing crowd (hopefully by the first of next year!), I'm in need of one of those myself. :)

:)

-Darren
 
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