Okay, it's dumb, but I know ...SOMEBODY...has done it.

[Stormdrane]

i just whack the old light saber every now and then

That doesn't sound kosher! Doh!

 

[Blop]

When we were kids in grade school we would do that to see who had the best knife. I gave that up about the time I started noticing girls.

Did you start whacking two girls together???

 

[Bobwhite]

Did you start whacking two girls together???

Or were you just wacking off?

Seriously, I've done it. Some cheap Pakistani flea market bowies, just to see what happened. Tore up the blades really good, looked like saws afterwards.

 

[logo]

I've done it. But I was 9 years old, stupid, curious, and they were only cheap kitchen knives. I whacked them together a few dozen times. My mom made me buy new ones.

Me too - almost exactly the same way.

Only differences were - I was 7 and they were my aunt's knives, not ours

 

[kricket]

Yes, as bad as it sounds now, when I was about 10 yrs old I took two cheap hunting knives and smashed them together edge to edge...been watching sword fights on some movie and just wanted to try it out...please forgive me!!! They really didn't show too much damage considering my distructive capabilities, that I still possess!!!

 

[untamed]

*raises hand*

I can do one better than this, though - a BM 710 and a hammer. The hammer won.

OMG! Ohhh, the humanity! THE legendary BM 710! Sacrilege!

BTW, i'd like to have it if your willing to part with it, hehehe. . .

 

[JeffLesniak]

BUT, my sister almost whacked my battle rat and cheap meyerco camp knife together, and I almost whacked her after grabbing her arms!

The worst part is that it was on the day I got it, that would have pissed me off for sure :barf:

And, I had the spine of my camillus blaze whack into the edge of my Leek when I was playing with them. Took a long time to get the dent out, let me assure you...

Jeff

 

[jmknife]

I hate to interject a serious question into this amazing discussion, but how did those old swords actually make contact with each other in a sword fight? Did you catch your opponent's blade on the back of your blade to preserve the edge? Did the blades never get into edge to edge contact? How could a sword last through an entire battle without sustaining critical damage? Were old swords so soft that you could just beat out the dents?

 

[drano]

I hate to interject a serious question into this amazing discussion, but how did those old swords actually make contact with each other in a sword fight? Did you catch your opponent's blade on the back of your blade to preserve the edge? Did the blades never get into edge to edge contact? How could a sword last through an entire battle without sustaining critical damage? Were old swords so soft that you could just beat out the dents?

that's what shields were for
pretty sure most sword fights lasted only a few moments and blades mostly went straight to someones gut.

but i could be wong, the only knowledge of military history that has survived in my head are the terms "galleion" and "hoplite phaylanx"

 

[skcusloa]

I think in true melee combat the winner is decided very quickly. No dramatized blade to blade stuff.

I heard most mideivel swords were pretty crappy and broke often. No need to arm human shield (infantry) with high quality stuff. As long as they could bash someone's skull or stick in a gut they were up to standard.

I'm sure I banged kitchen knives together at least once.

I ran my spyderco military into a staple once. Put a nice chip in the edge. Normal sharpmaker stones had no effect. Had to rubber band a cheap diamond stone to it to finally get that sucker out...

I do remember going through a faze when I was younger where I tried to eat everything with just a steak knife. I saw some cowboy movie where the guy was cutting up steak and stabbing it with the tip and putting it into his mouth. Doesn't work very well... unless you are eating steak...I think I was like 4...

 

[knife saber]

Sword discussions are better in the swords forum, but medieval swords were excellent blades - their inferiority is a widely promulgated myth. Blade contact wasn't unheard of, either - but from what I've heard, cold stops weren't as common as parries, which used the blade flat to deflect the oncoming edge, minimizing possible damage. But there are old swords with edge chips that seem to indicate edge-to-edge contact. Whatever keeps you alive works, right?

 

[Lavan]

....man....boredom has really gotten the better part of your life right now !....I predict you will be buying another new knife within the next 7 days !

Well, gramps, yer too late. I'm waitin for a chisel grind BM910 that I finally ....FOUND.....(after MUCH searchin) and the place had ONE. Now I'm waitin for UPS.

 

[Daniel Koster]

Oh yeah....do it all the time....


But, uh....mostly with knives that were screwed up during heat-treat, or a result of bad mojo when I was grinding, or they break when I test 'em...

I've also thrown them at pesky stray cats, the cement floor, grass, trees, boxes....

So far, have yet to hurt anybody (including the cats......gotta work on my aim... )

 

[Gramps]

Well, gramps, yer too late. I'm waitin for a chisel grind BM910 that I finally ....FOUND.....(after MUCH searchin) and the place had ONE. Now I'm waitin for UPS.

...oh I already knew of that one......from your recent posts.....I see another one coming very soon. Lets face it.......A guy has to be incredibly bored to spend good money on a chisel grind !

-regards

 

[madcap_magician]

Sword discussions are better in the swords forum, but medieval swords were excellent blades - their inferiority is a widely promulgated myth. Blade contact wasn't unheard of, either - but from what I've heard, cold stops weren't as common as parries, which used the blade flat to deflect the oncoming edge, minimizing possible damage. But there are old swords with edge chips that seem to indicate edge-to-edge contact. Whatever keeps you alive works, right?

Oh no, I, personally, would much prefer to take an opponent's sword straight through my internal organs rather than damage such an expensive and exquisite weapon with the edge! God forbid!

 

[cmd]

Around the time when I was 7 or 8 years old, me and Jim Blume every once in a while would walk down the road from his parent's house to his gran-maw's house and we would try to find the best bottle along the way.

The best bottle is the one that breaks the others. Find a bottle, throw it bottom first into the next one you find laying in the ditch.

It was much more fun to take the long way through the peach orchard, but after they had been sprayed with sulfur you did not want to go through there for a while so we took the road.

Trenton SC, Edgefield County, mid-1970's

 

[Cliff Stamp]

How could a sword last through an entire battle without sustaining critical damage?

This was discussed on rec.knives a few weeks back, apparently breaks were frequent, often due to the low end nature of mass arming and lots of broken swords were made into knives.

-Cliff

 

[bigbore.45]

OK
i had the Cold Steel Vaquero Grande for some time
and a Ontario Hells Belle shortly .....

On vacation and a bit bored i wanted to know how the spanish notch would catch the VG`s blade.....

A little bend of the hand and the VG`s blade had a new serration

 

[Lavan]

I sold an old wakizashi a few years ago that had plenty of battle nicks. Most looked to be glancing blows on the back of the blade. None on the edge. One particularly neat one on the habaki where the opponent's blade obviously slid down and sorta peeled the silver. Didn't remove it, but you could tell the owner had formed it back into the original shape, but the cut and wrinkles still showed. I imagine it was customary to try NOT to whack the EDGES together for obvious reasons.

 

[Ookami]

in anchient japan they went for a oneshot kill and when they had blade contact they used the back or the shinogi (the ridge in the approx. middle of the blade where the grind started) to deflect the other blade. another thing I heard is that wakizashi were made tougher and less hard to use it as the main defense.

to make up for ot, yes when i was a little boy i tried it too, with a cleaver and a hunting knife, the cleaver was pretty much cut by the obviously harder hunting knife which showed only little damage.

Ookami