Okay...What do I have from Estwing

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bobjones223

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I posted this over in the "Forum: Bernard Levine's Knife Collecting & Identification" and they suggested that I post it here also. I thought it was a meat cleaver but some are thinking that it is a tool or wood splitting tool? I have never seen one and have done a bunch of looking on line and can't seem to find anything there either. WHAT IS IT???

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1128548-Estwing-Meat-Cleaver

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That's unusual - beats the heck outa me what it is. The back of the blade looks like it was intended to be struck by a mallet or something. If I had to take a WAG I'd say it's a kindling hatchet.
 
Either a kindling hatchet or a cleaver. Many cleavers have mushroomed spines from being hammered through bones and the like.

I want one, either way. That's damn sexy. Maybe we can convince them to bring it back since they're making new models these days. :D
 
I bet you our resident research wizard, Steve Tall, can track down the patent. :D
 
The link states Not known to be produced. Possibly a factory prototype. Maybe one of a kind. Awesome find.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Either a kindling hatchet or a cleaver. Many cleavers have mushroomed spines from being hammered through bones and the like.

I want one, either way. That's damn sexy. Maybe we can convince them to bring it back since they're making new models these days. :D
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Funny you mention that because Estwing said they NEVER made one of those?? They said they think it started out as a hatchet and someone modified it. I find that hard to believe because of the forging/cast marks running from handle to the sweep of the blade. I brought this to there attention and I think I got a polite "Leave us alone" statement from them as in "we have better things to do". this is what they sent me.

(I had the president look at the photo and he said that we have never manufactured a tool like that and that It was a modified hatchet. The president is also the owner and they are the only family that has owned Estwing, so I am sure he would know.)

I am sure he was alive when this was built??:rolleyes:

(Sorry for the delayed response. That tool was actually modified. You can see the weld mark on the blade. It looks like someone took on of our hatchets and modified the blade.)


I do not see the weld marks!....Do you guys???
 
Kingsize said:
http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=1578502&id=42977&set=1

Click on the link for the USPTO Classifications. The link reverts to 30/308.1 as a combination tool, used as a mincing cleaver, culinary implement, & combination tool. Those links also give more detail as to the look, and combinations used.
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This was pointed out to me before but I am not sure how to go any further than this. Sounds like Estwing doesn't care to really know and truthfully I don't blame them they have a multimillion dollar company to run but I STILL want to know what it is!

So what is the next step?
 
Might well be an experimental. It's too bad Estwing didn't take an interest in this.
 
That patent that Kingsize found looks like a different design:

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compared to:

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However, that patent seems to be the most relevant, since it is the only patent awarded to Estwing on 3-30-26 (the patent date stamped on the handle).
My guess is non-production experimental prototype tweaking of the patented design.



FortyTwoBlades said:
I bet you our resident research wizard, Steve Tall, can track down the patent. :D
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I've happy to have been promoted from librarian!
 
I've seen a few of these. It is clearly a Frankenaxe M3. The others looked different but they were Frankenaxe M1 and M2. So far we have established the pommel is probably from an Estwing. I see a line that suggests a blade was welded to a handle. Maybe during the depression or perhaps WWII when steel was hard to come by. I doubt that Estwing had anything to do with it. Whomever created it did a good job.;)
 
bobjones223 said:
Funny you mention that because Estwing said they NEVER made one of those??

(I had the president look at the photo and he said that we have never manufactured a tool like that and that It was a modified hatchet. The president is also the owner and they are the only family that has owned Estwing, so I am sure he would know.)
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Sounds entirely plausible to me. You've got a one-off modified hatchet. It's cool! Enjoy!
 
Steve Tall said:
That patent that Kingsize found looks like a different design:
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I believe it is due to it being a combination tool. It refers to these patents previously given, as a combination of each design, and you can definitely see the lineage from the previous versions wrapped up in this one design.

http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/xrefClass.php?class=30&subclass=308.1


Or as others have stated, it is a custom built piece. Entirely plausable once you consider the times. Either way, nice piece.
 
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