"Old Knives"

waynorth · Nov 23, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
two additional small pins on the mark side were used to attach a shield that had parted company

Maybe??

No sign of a recess in the stag though, that I can see.

ed_is_dead · Nov 23, 2021

waynorth said:
Maybe?? No sign of a recess in the stag though, that I can see.

Waynorth, I could be wrong but I've seen and maybe have a couple Sheffield folders where the stag is not chased in, rather it sits flush ontop if that makes sense?

waynorth · Nov 23, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
Waynorth, I could be wrong but I've seen and maybe have a couple Sheffield folders where the stag is not chased in, rather it sits flush ontop if that makes sense?

When they do that w/o a chase, they usually find a flat area. If I am not mistaken that is a pretty gnarly area between the "pins". I could be wrong - that happens more than I'd like!!

ed_is_dead · Nov 23, 2021

waynorth said:
When they do that w/o a chase, they usually find a flat area. If I am not mistaken that is a pretty gnarly area between the "pins". I could be wrong - that happens more than I'd like!!

It is gnarly and would perhaps account for why it exited stage left at some point in the past

Having done a couple shield (replacements) myself I can attest to the difficulty in doing it correctly as you imply.

r8shell · Nov 23, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
Geirg

A classy item that Unchained , love a swedge terminating at a long pull. Sounds weird when you say that!

A new arrival I'm minding. It took a little work to make serviceable but the two of us are doing work all day together

I can find squat on the maker. No Thomas in Tweedale's. My guess this is Sheffield made for a company called J Thomas but that's a wild stab in the dark and await correction.
Either way it a very nice thing to use.
Question: should I reattach a shield or leave as is? I'm on the fence. I believe the original may have been oval.

That's some beautifully smooth-worn stag! Really lovely.

r8shell · Nov 23, 2021

This Humason & Beckley (H&B Mfg Co.) 1852-1916 arrived last week.

It was in sad shape, with cracked bone and tips well-proud of the frame. I hated to remove so much steel, but there was no room to lower the blades.
Before:

After:

ed_is_dead · Nov 23, 2021

r8shell said:
This Humason & Beckley (H&B Mfg Co.) 1852-1916 arrived last week.

It was in sad shape, with cracked bone and tips well-proud of the frame. I hated to remove so much steel, but there was no room to lower the blades.
Before:

After:

Much like the lad who had to cut his arm off to escape being trapped by a rock you had to do that so it could once again be a useful tool as it was deigned to be

Great work as always.

waynorth · Nov 23, 2021

r8shell said:
This Humason & Beckley (H&B Mfg Co.) 1852-1916 arrived last week.

It was in sad shape, with cracked bone and tips well-proud of the frame. I hated to remove so much steel, but there was no room to lower the blades.
Before:

After:

New lease on life!! Beautiful WabiSabi!!
"imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete"! Nonetheless, Beautiful!!

r8shell · Nov 24, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
Much like the lad who had to cut his arm off to escape being trapped by a rock you had to do that so it could once again be a useful tool as it was deigned to be Great work as always.

waynorth said:
New lease on life!! Beautiful WabiSabi!!
"imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete"! Nonetheless, Beautiful!!

Thanks, guys! I assumed the main blade was originally a spear, but who knows? The edge was sharpened pretty straight, so it didn't take much work to sheepfoot it.
Seller's pic of the pile side:

rockman0 · Nov 24, 2021

3 1/2" Schrade Cut Co. Original finish with a light patina, light use, the pen has a chip popped out of it, appears to have the factory edges, just not quite as sharp as a minty example. The typical near perfection build

and the mind boggling pick bone is just icing on the cake :thumbsup:

ed_is_dead · Nov 24, 2021

rockman0 said:
3 1/2" Schrade Cut Co. Original finish with a light patina, light use, the pen has a chip popped out of it, appears to have the factory edges, just not quite as sharp as a minty example. The typical near perfection build and the mind boggling pick bone is just icing on the cake

Gosh Rockman that's simply wonderful. Love that main and the bone is truly awesome. What's the walk and talk like? Have to ask, will you sharpen and use or just admire. Being a bonefide heathen you know what I'd do

Either way, well wear, a superb piece that would make any right minded person smile on seeing it.
Ps: can you date it accurately?

waynorth · Nov 24, 2021

rockman0 said:
The typical near perfection build and the mind boggling pick bone is just icing on the cake.

Same pattern, Rob , different blades!!

ed_is_dead said:
Ps: can you date it accurately?

Most likely, that pick bone is pre-WWI, on both knives of course!!

cudgee · Nov 24, 2021

rockman0 said:
the mind boggling pick bone is just icing on the cake

Just staggering. :thumbsup:

Campbellclanman · Nov 25, 2021

R8shell that knife look sweet now. Neat ok Knife!

Rob that’s a beautiful Jack with stunning Bone, Charlie adds the spice to all things nice!

r8shell · Nov 25, 2021

rockman0 said:
3 1/2" Schrade Cut Co. Original finish with a light patina, light use, the pen has a chip popped out of it, appears to have the factory edges, just not quite as sharp as a minty example. The typical near perfection build and the mind boggling pick bone is just icing on the cake

waynorth said:
Same pattern, Rob , different blades!!
View attachment 1688900

Most likely, that pick bone is pre-WWI, on both knives of course!!

What beautiful, bareheaded pickbone, guys!

Campbellclanman said:
R8shell that knife look sweet now. Neat ok Knife!

Thanks, Duncan. I'm very pleased with it.

rockman0 · Nov 25, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
Gosh Rockman that's simply wonderful. Love that main and the bone is truly awesome. What's the walk and talk like? Have to ask, will you sharpen and use or just admire. Being a bonefide heathen you know what I'd do
Either way, well wear, a superb piece that would make any right minded person smile on seeing it.
Ps: can you date it accurately?

Thanks, Ed :thumbsup:

walk and talk is crisp and snappy, I imagine it's the same as when new. Here's a picture showing the tight fit. As Charlie said it's most likely pre WWI but I believe the arched stamp harness jack he posted is earlier than this knife.
I won't be using this knife, I knew your heathen knife habits would force you to sharpen it and use it

waynorth said:
Same pattern, Rob , different blades!!
View attachment 1688900

Most likely, that pick bone is pre-WWI, on both knives of course!!

Beautiful HJ :thumbsup:

Charlie, I like the arched stamp, steel pins and rat tail bolsters :thumbsup:

and of course the bone

cudgee said:
Just staggering.

Thanks, cudgee :thumbsup:

Campbellclanman said:
Rob that’s a beautiful Jack with stunning Bone, Charlie adds the spice to all things nice!

Thanks, Duncan :thumbsup:

r8shell said:
What beautiful, bareheaded pickbone, guys!

Thanks, Duncan. I'm very pleased with it.

Thanks, Rachel :thumbsup:

ed_is_dead · Nov 25, 2021

rockman0 said:
Thanks, Ed walk and talk is crisp and snappy, I imagine it's the same as when new. Here's a picture showing the tight fit. As Charlie said it's most likely pre WWI but I believe the arched stamp harness jack he posted is earlier than this knife.
I won't be using this knife, I knew your heathen knife habits would force you to sharpen it and use it

Beautiful HJ Charlie, I like the arched stamp, steel pins and rat tail bolsters and of course the bone

Thanks, cudgee

Thanks, Duncan

Thanks, Rachel

Tight fit is right, that's beautiful and put together by somone very particular. Knew you'd know the where's and how's to date these things in order.
My knowledge or US cutlery is less than that of Sheffield's and my knowledge of that is less than what some of the experts here have forgotten, but I'm an eager student!
Oh yes a heathen is right, if I found Excaliber itself the first thing I'd do is bounce it off the stones till it shaved arm hair haha

I recently came across a J Roberts knife pre dating his trip across the water where he and his buddies set up New York knife Co, funny to think his son may have made that very knife! That's is assuming I'm corre t in that they were linked to New York Knife Co in the distant past?

waynorth · Nov 25, 2021

ed_is_dead said:
I recently came across a J Roberts knife pre dating his trip across the water where he and his buddies set up New York knife Co, funny to think his son may have made that very knife! That's is assuming I'm corre t in that they were linked to New York Knife Co in the distant past?

Pictures please!!!

rockman0 · Nov 25, 2021

You arrived at the correct place to learn more knife history

I've learned a ton from these guys,, learn something everyday :thumbsup:

I'm with Charlie on the pictures please!

ed_is_dead said:
Tight fit is right, that's beautiful and put together by somone very particular. Knew you'd know the where's and how's to date these things in order.
My knowledge or US cutlery is less than that of Sheffield's and my knowledge of that is less than what some of the experts here have forgotten, but I'm an eager student!
Oh yes a heathen is right, if I found Excaliber itself the first thing I'd do is bounce it off the stones till it shaved arm hair haha
I recently came across a J Roberts knife pre dating his trip across the water where he and his buddies set up New York knife Co, funny to think his son may have made that very knife! That's is assuming I'm corre t in that they were linked to New York Knife Co in the distant past?

ed_is_dead · Nov 25, 2021

waynorth said:
Pictures please!!!

rockman0 said:
You arrived at the correct place to learn more knife history I've learned a ton from these guys,, learn something everyday I'm with Charlie on the pictures please!

Everdays a school day

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I warn you guys in advance....I sharpened it and have been using the heeck out it

"Made in Sheffield" 1830-1930, A golden age ?

It doesn't take long to bring a thin blade from dull to sharp, I spent most of my time straightening the sheepsfoot, as seen on the right it had a hint of a belly when I got it. Left is how it is now, with a patina coming along too. I like a manicure blade as well, they come in handy when a...

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