"Old Knives"

Coyja, that's a very nice Razor!!! there's no way I could have walked past that one either!

Augie, a Gorgeous Remington HJ, I haven't come across one yet! I remember picking up the Acorn Shield use with Knives that have Punches from Herder- I find that real interesting!

Mike, yet another outstanding Knife- That Utica like others have said is really nice with its glowing Cell covers! As Jeff said- a very nice Knife that steps outside of the ordinary that's for sure :)

Charlie, I always like it when you add your Knives in for examples- always Wow factor!

Euroken- Oh man...that's a beauty!
 
I have been wondering about the shields... Many of them kind of invites to engrave a name or initials on them, but I have never seen it been done. Is there another point of having a shield on the scale?
 
Here is Schrade CC Texas Jack (Moose) pattern no. 7813 (Schrade 1926 catalog pg. 46). The catalog says it is 4 inches. I measure
this example at 3 & 15/16 inches. I was drawn to it because of the beautiful pick bone handles and the blade finishes. The clip point mark side blade is crocus finished and all other blade surfaces are glazed. The folder does not look to have been used or sharpened post production.

This jack has spun pins and because of this it is definitely a 1920s or later produced specimen. I think it is generally accepted that in American cutlery hammered pins are pre circa 1920 and spun pins are post circa 1920. The pick bone handles are usually associated with pre 1920 knives.
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Augie I agree with you my friend, That is a very decent Cattle by Challenge, really nice knife and a real pleasure to view- I love everything about it!

Luger- Thats wow factor, the blades could be rusted and worn yet still look incredible with that superb Pic Bone, an absolute stunner there matey!
 
Luger1952 said:
Here is Schrade CC Texas Jack (Moose) pattern no. 7813 (Schrade 1926 catalog pg. 46). The catalog says it is 4 inches. I measure
this example at 3 & 15/16 inches. I was drawn to it because of the beautiful pick bone handles and the blade finishes. The clip point mark side blade is crocus finished and all other blade surfaces are glazed. The folder does not look to have been used or sharpened post production.

This jack has spun pins and because of this it is definitely a 1920s or later produced specimen. I think it is generally accepted that in American cutlery hammered pins are pre circa 1920 and spun pins are post circa 1920. The pick bone handles are usually associated with pre 1920 knives.
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That knife qualifies for "the best of its breed"!!! What a knockout, Lloyd!!
 
Luger1952 said:
Here is Schrade CC Texas Jack (Moose) pattern no. 7813 (Schrade 1926 catalog pg. 46). The catalog says it is 4 inches. I measure
this example at 3 & 15/16 inches. I was drawn to it because of the beautiful pick bone handles and the blade finishes. The clip point mark side blade is crocus finished and all other blade surfaces are glazed. The folder does not look to have been used or sharpened post production.

This jack has spun pins and because of this it is definitely a 1920s or later produced specimen. I think it is generally accepted that in American cutlery hammered pins are pre circa 1920 and spun pins are post circa 1920. The pick bone handles are usually associated with pre 1920 knives.
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Knock out for sure. Some of the most amazing jigging & color.
 
Luger1952 said:
I think it is generally accepted that in American cutlery hammered pins are pre circa 1920 and spun pins are post circa 1920.
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In a Cattaraugus Catalog that I have, written by Dewey Fergueson, the catalog is divided into two sections. The first section is from a 1922 catalog and the second section is from a 1930 catalog. In the first section, every illustration of bone handled Cattaraugus knives, under magnification, show that all pins are hammered. In the 1930 catalog, some, but, not even half of the illustrations, reveal that spun pins were being used on mostly new models of Catt knives. Those illustrations also confirm that the worm groove or Indian trail bone begin to get phased out. The new models show spun pins and no trails or grooves in the bone handles. One might argue that the illustrations just weren't being updated regularly, but, that would be hard to know.

My take from that catalog is that handle fastening was in a transition time, during the roaring twenties. I expect that the spun pins were phased in over time, possibly with the new models or with less experienced cutlers. I really doubt that this was done over night or even in a year and would have likely differed with different companies.

1929 resulted in the demise of a good many cutlery companies and it seems likely many of those companies never used the spun pins at all.

Might be wiser to use a decade vs. a year. Just my opinion and not meant to be argumentative. ☺️ Would be nice to know exactly. I doubt it can be.

Beautiful old Schrade , BTW ! :thumbsup:😍
 
Primble said:
In a Cattaraugus Catalog that I have, written by Dewey Fergueson, the catalog is divided into two sections. The first section is from a 1922 catalog and the second section is from a 1930 catalog. In the first section, every illustration of bone handled Cattaraugus knives, under magnification, show that all pins are hammered. In the 1930 catalog, some, but, not even half of the illustrations, reveal that spun pins were being used on mostly new models of Catt knives. Those illustrations also confirm that the worm groove or Indian trail bone begin to get phased out. The new models show spun pins and no trails or grooves in the bone handles. One might argue that the illustrations just weren't being updated regularly, but, that would be hard to know.

My take from that catalog is that handle fastening was in a transition time, during the roaring twenties. I expect that the spun pins were phased in over time, possibly with the new models or with less experienced cutlers. I really doubt that this was done over night or even in a year and would have likely differed with different companies.

1929 resulted in the demise of a good many cutlery companies and it seems likely many of those companies never used the spun pins at all.

Might be wiser to use a decade vs. a year. Just my opinion and not meant to be argumentative. ☺️ Would be nice to know exactly. I doubt it can be.

Beautiful old Schrade , BTW ! :thumbsup:😍
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Great explanation!!!
 
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