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"Old Knives"
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and knife related (I lightened the scan):
Got this off of the bay awhile back. I've since heard that there are a lot of them around and that they used to be pretty cheap. I know Charlie has posted one or two in the past.
Description: 5 ½ x 1 inches, pre-1900 solid wood type Letterpress printer’s block. George Wostenholm (Sheffield, England) Anglo-Saxon Whittler Pocket Knife with three blades and a Pearl Handle. Original catalog number: 2214. There is a 3-line marking on the master knife blade: I*XL George, Wostenholm, Sheffield.
Got this off of the bay awhile back. I've since heard that there are a lot of them around and that they used to be pretty cheap. I know Charlie has posted one or two in the past.
Description: 5 ½ x 1 inches, pre-1900 solid wood type Letterpress printer’s block. George Wostenholm (Sheffield, England) Anglo-Saxon Whittler Pocket Knife with three blades and a Pearl Handle. Original catalog number: 2214. There is a 3-line marking on the master knife blade: I*XL George, Wostenholm, Sheffield.
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From the owner...
"3 1/4 " closed, milled brass liners, nickel silver shield and pins, ivory hafts, fileworked extended backspring and blade spine, along with it's original blue telescpoing cardboard box. Extensively carried, lightly used, a few peppers and pits, yet remains unsharpened. This maker built knives at the Beehive Works from 1858 up until 1901, at which time it went bankrupt. The firm was purchased at that time and reopened at the Venture Works and began pruducing knives bearing the Venture Slater mark built by various makers all the way up until about 1990. The original " Beehive " knives were well built, highly regarded, wonderful quality knives and many were highly decorated as is this example. The knives manufactured post 1901 generally are not the same quality and usually do not garner much collector interest. This example dates from 1858 - 1890. The disparate color you see between the front and rear hafts is the same in person as you see in the images. This is not uncommon with ivory, especially over many years time. It does not always age and color the same. Light exposure can have an effect, but more common is the fact that the pieces came from different parts of the tusk, or different tusks all together. More unusual to me than the fact that the knife made it all this time in such nice condition is that somehow the cardboard box survived completely intact and solid with just a few rub marks scattered about it's surface."
"3 1/4 " closed, milled brass liners, nickel silver shield and pins, ivory hafts, fileworked extended backspring and blade spine, along with it's original blue telescpoing cardboard box. Extensively carried, lightly used, a few peppers and pits, yet remains unsharpened. This maker built knives at the Beehive Works from 1858 up until 1901, at which time it went bankrupt. The firm was purchased at that time and reopened at the Venture Works and began pruducing knives bearing the Venture Slater mark built by various makers all the way up until about 1990. The original " Beehive " knives were well built, highly regarded, wonderful quality knives and many were highly decorated as is this example. The knives manufactured post 1901 generally are not the same quality and usually do not garner much collector interest. This example dates from 1858 - 1890. The disparate color you see between the front and rear hafts is the same in person as you see in the images. This is not uncommon with ivory, especially over many years time. It does not always age and color the same. Light exposure can have an effect, but more common is the fact that the pieces came from different parts of the tusk, or different tusks all together. More unusual to me than the fact that the knife made it all this time in such nice condition is that somehow the cardboard box survived completely intact and solid with just a few rub marks scattered about it's surface."
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I like the beehive tang-stamp, the survival of the box and the filework. What could this pattern be called?
KnifeHead
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Yesterday evening Tony and I were talking about Yukons and the "Yukon shield" and he said, "I have one...you want to shoot it?". I said, "heck yeah", and then I mentioned that Reese and I were talking about something he was refering to as "rat tail bolsters"(which had nothing to do with "rat tail flutes"). Tony explained that there used to be a folding hunter that people called "rat tail hunters". He said, "I have one of those too, want to shoot it?" I said(you guessed it), "HECK YEAH!". He went on to say, "You should shoot this old Case folding hunter too and all three together and point out the differences".
So, here we have(left to right in the first image) a rare Catt. Yukon LINER LOCK! (UH...who is it that they say "invented" the liner lock
?) This knife may go back to sometime before 1910...notice hammered pins. The bone is purrrrrfectly yummy. The butt of the handle goes down to about (top to bottom) 3/8" width and the front has a straight bolster. Also notice that the original brass bail is intact. These knives could be ordered with or without the bail. The Yukon is a single blade knife and could be purchased with or without a locking liner.
Next is the Kinfolks Folding "rat tail" hunter and is sometime incorrectly refered to as a Yukon. This knife has early Rogers bone and may go back into the 1920s...notice TWO PINS on the front edge of the bone. Later knives had a single pin up front. The differences are obvious: "copperhead style bolsters, two blades, and a little bigger butt. ( I know Campbell..you like big butts
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The last one is the typical Case folding hunter. This particular one is out of the 50's (if I remember right) and has late Rogers bone. Notice the differences between it and the rat tail hunter.
So, here we have(left to right in the first image) a rare Catt. Yukon LINER LOCK! (UH...who is it that they say "invented" the liner lock
?) This knife may go back to sometime before 1910...notice hammered pins. The bone is purrrrrfectly yummy. The butt of the handle goes down to about (top to bottom) 3/8" width and the front has a straight bolster. Also notice that the original brass bail is intact. These knives could be ordered with or without the bail. The Yukon is a single blade knife and could be purchased with or without a locking liner.Next is the Kinfolks Folding "rat tail" hunter and is sometime incorrectly refered to as a Yukon. This knife has early Rogers bone and may go back into the 1920s...notice TWO PINS on the front edge of the bone. Later knives had a single pin up front. The differences are obvious: "copperhead style bolsters, two blades, and a little bigger butt. ( I know Campbell..you like big butts
)The last one is the typical Case folding hunter. This particular one is out of the 50's (if I remember right) and has late Rogers bone. Notice the differences between it and the rat tail hunter.
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Thanks Kerry for the side x side comparison! As you said I am glad the liner lock is a modern invention
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Invented c. 1906 for Cattaraugus:a rare Catt. Yukon LINER LOCK! (UH...who is it that they say "invented" the liner lock
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Very nice lesson, Mr. Hampton. Of course, it helps to have the Dean Emeritus supplying you with classroom materials! Three beauties.
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An impressive array of manly Hunters, helping to explain the myths and truths, supplemented by Berkley's neat bit of research.
Thanks Tony, Kerry and Berkley!
If we keep this up, we might get to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about all these knives we love so much!!
We might even agree on what to call them.
Thanks Tony, Kerry and Berkley!
If we keep this up, we might get to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about all these knives we love so much!!
We might even agree on what to call them.