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The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
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Here's one , from the owner ....
"3 3/4" closed, brass lined, nickel silver pins and shield, beatifully fitted and aged ivory hafts, 1858 - 1890.
Each of the 4 blades has a long straight pull cut all the way through it's respective tang, including the manicure tool. Clear in person, the Slater Bros.Beehive trademark appears on each of the 4 blades, but proved to be very difficult to scan properly.This knife has been heavily carried and its blades extensively sharpened down over time. The hafts have a few small pin cracks as well, but overall the knife is very tight and snappy, well fitted on all counts, and in spite of the obvious blade loss, functions as would a new knife. A very nice knife in the pocket as well, owing to the full sunk joints and generally rounded profile. This patern is virtually identical to the IXL double gunstock in ivory that I showed you recently, the main difference being that this knife is not contoured away at its ends as is the gunstock, but instead the frame remains full width along its entire length, thus " sinking " the joints, and shrouding the sharp, square tang ends. Blade access on the Slater Bros. is achieved by means of an " ease " ground into the frame and haft in front of the pull of each of its 4 blades. I included a scan of it and the IXL side by side to see how similar they actually are. The Slater is a bit older but these patterns remained in the catalogs and were built well on into the 1920's or so."
Have a great weekend!
-Vince
"3 3/4" closed, brass lined, nickel silver pins and shield, beatifully fitted and aged ivory hafts, 1858 - 1890.
Each of the 4 blades has a long straight pull cut all the way through it's respective tang, including the manicure tool. Clear in person, the Slater Bros.Beehive trademark appears on each of the 4 blades, but proved to be very difficult to scan properly.This knife has been heavily carried and its blades extensively sharpened down over time. The hafts have a few small pin cracks as well, but overall the knife is very tight and snappy, well fitted on all counts, and in spite of the obvious blade loss, functions as would a new knife. A very nice knife in the pocket as well, owing to the full sunk joints and generally rounded profile. This patern is virtually identical to the IXL double gunstock in ivory that I showed you recently, the main difference being that this knife is not contoured away at its ends as is the gunstock, but instead the frame remains full width along its entire length, thus " sinking " the joints, and shrouding the sharp, square tang ends. Blade access on the Slater Bros. is achieved by means of an " ease " ground into the frame and haft in front of the pull of each of its 4 blades. I included a scan of it and the IXL side by side to see how similar they actually are. The Slater is a bit older but these patterns remained in the catalogs and were built well on into the 1920's or so."
Have a great weekend!
-Vince
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And wait 'til you all see this one...
From the owner,of course,
"Brass lined, nickel silver bolsters, shield, and pins, finely grained exhibition quality stag hafts, 4 1/8 " closed, uncarried, unused, unsharpened, uncleaned, built 1890 - 1920. These are tough to find in general,
more difficult in fine condition and in stag, and really scarce in this large size. The main blade must have been made on a Monday after a long weekend. The tang was stamped with a broken stamp, missing the
" I " in IXL, and in addition, the main blade flat was mistakenly stamped " Congress Knife ", then MOST of the mistake was removed by the grinding process. The stag and black polish on this example
are particularly nice, as is the fit and finish in general. The polish, deep hollow grinds, and blade contours make this knife extremely difficult to scan properly. The craftsman who assembled and fitted up the knife was deservedly proud of his work, as the inside of pile side liner is deeply struck with the initials " C.P." Notice also the nicely added touch of the secondary blades having a reverse curve to more closely match the coutour of the handles when in the closed position than they would have if they were ground with straight spines. A knife I was lucky to find and another of my favorites."
From the owner,of course,
"Brass lined, nickel silver bolsters, shield, and pins, finely grained exhibition quality stag hafts, 4 1/8 " closed, uncarried, unused, unsharpened, uncleaned, built 1890 - 1920. These are tough to find in general,
more difficult in fine condition and in stag, and really scarce in this large size. The main blade must have been made on a Monday after a long weekend. The tang was stamped with a broken stamp, missing the
" I " in IXL, and in addition, the main blade flat was mistakenly stamped " Congress Knife ", then MOST of the mistake was removed by the grinding process. The stag and black polish on this example
are particularly nice, as is the fit and finish in general. The polish, deep hollow grinds, and blade contours make this knife extremely difficult to scan properly. The craftsman who assembled and fitted up the knife was deservedly proud of his work, as the inside of pile side liner is deeply struck with the initials " C.P." Notice also the nicely added touch of the secondary blades having a reverse curve to more closely match the coutour of the handles when in the closed position than they would have if they were ground with straight spines. A knife I was lucky to find and another of my favorites."
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Vince, if you were to send that to me I would somehow find it in my heart to overlook the flaws.
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Saturday morning show,have a good weekend!
From the owner ,
"3 1/2" closed, nickel silver tip bolsters and pins, brass liners, nicely grained and colored pearl hafts,
1890 - 1920, a few blade rubs and a couple pits on the springs, but in otherwise about the same condition as it was a hundred years ago when the salesman unfurled his knife roll for dealers or prospective dealers.
In addition to the blade inking, there is an " X " stamped inside the center of the mark side liner.
An unexpectedly stout main blade for a knife of this type and extremely firm springs as well. The secondary blades both click very loudly when they hit their crisp half stops. The main has a round tang characteristic of most whittlers, and requires quite a bit of concentration to open without ripping off a chunk of thumbnail or getting it's tip stuck into your palm. A very closely fitted knife - there is very little air space between the blades and liners when closed as you can see, hence the slight blade rubbing, mostly due to careless opening in the past. The mirror - like black polished blades made it impossible for me to get good scans"
From the owner ,
"3 1/2" closed, nickel silver tip bolsters and pins, brass liners, nicely grained and colored pearl hafts,
1890 - 1920, a few blade rubs and a couple pits on the springs, but in otherwise about the same condition as it was a hundred years ago when the salesman unfurled his knife roll for dealers or prospective dealers.
In addition to the blade inking, there is an " X " stamped inside the center of the mark side liner.
An unexpectedly stout main blade for a knife of this type and extremely firm springs as well. The secondary blades both click very loudly when they hit their crisp half stops. The main has a round tang characteristic of most whittlers, and requires quite a bit of concentration to open without ripping off a chunk of thumbnail or getting it's tip stuck into your palm. A very closely fitted knife - there is very little air space between the blades and liners when closed as you can see, hence the slight blade rubbing, mostly due to careless opening in the past. The mirror - like black polished blades made it impossible for me to get good scans"
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From the owner,
"Single half stop spey blade grafting knife built on a 3/4" wide, 3 1/8" closed gunstock frame - 4 7/8" to tip of ivory spud closed. Brass pinned and lined, nickel silver bolsters, deep brown horn scales. Slight use, a few pits and scratches, most original finish intact, built 1890 - 1920. Overall , a nice example"
"Single half stop spey blade grafting knife built on a 3/4" wide, 3 1/8" closed gunstock frame - 4 7/8" to tip of ivory spud closed. Brass pinned and lined, nickel silver bolsters, deep brown horn scales. Slight use, a few pits and scratches, most original finish intact, built 1890 - 1920. Overall , a nice example"
It was hard to push them into the mail slot!!
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Kerry - I like that Van Camp a lot. I have a couple of newer Van Camp peanuts made by Ulster. Do you think that one might be a Camillus? Sweet looking and not too common pattern... nice handle shape, classy stamp and etch, and very handsome jigged bone. Any idea on the age?