"Old Knives"

mckgreg said:
Remington RH-74-P. "P" for pyremite. I have seen these on occasion but the stamp had Dupont in a oval underneath Remington. Dupont owned Remington from 1935 to 1940.
Click to expand...

Time for me to learn something here. DuPont owned Remington Firearms up until 1993. Did they only market the knives until 1940? I'm honestly curious. I'm not well versed on Remington knives and thought they had a longer lifespan under the DuPont name.
 
You are correct on this particular Remington knife Rupestris. I edited my earlier post to help reflect it. A quick search of Remington's History shows how the company has changed over time. Not much knife info in it tho. I found a article in OKCA's newsletter from 2004 which spoke of this in detail but I'll be danged if I can find it again

Link to Remington's History
http://www.remington.com/Pages/Our-Company/Company-History.aspx
Greg

Here we go !! Link to the OKCA info. See page 8.http://www.oregonknifeclub.org/Newsletter%200412.pdf
 
Last edited:
mckgreg said:
You are correct on this particular Remington knife Rupestris. I edited my earlier post to help reflect it. A quick search of Remington's History shows how the company has changed over time. Not much knife info in it tho. I found a article in OKCA's newsletter from 2004 which spoke of this in detail but I'll be danged if I can find it again

Greg
Click to expand...

Not a problem Greg. I actually work for DuPont and there is some history of the relationship with Remington scattered around the website and some books. Unfortunately it's vague and deals with the company, not the products like knives or specific firearms. I'm not surprised that Remington doesn't offer much either. It seems to be more corporate history on the DuPont side too. Over the history of the relationship DuPont either owned a controlling share or the entire company outright but it tended to be inconsistent from what I have found here.
 
The Dupont stamp is in the circle as shown here. This should help in dating these critters.
Greg
orig.jpg
 
Last edited:
I'm betting Bernard Levine would be able to shed some light on this. I'll go check a couple of guides and see what I come up with.

Levine's Guide IV states that August 3, 1933 DuPont rescues Remington from bankruptcy.
1936 Remington DuPont issues a new catalog. Pocket knife line has 307 patterns.

"Goins" lists the DuPont Stamp as only 1933-1934

And of course, in 1940 Remington was sold to Pal Cutlery.

BRL can probably fill in the gaps on his forum.
 
Last edited:
Getting around to taking some pictures today. This one belongs here. One of my favorites. A Queen City all done in steel.

P1010026-1.jpg


P1010032-1.jpg
 
The EDW. K. TYRON & Co. of Philidelphia was in operation from 1811-1952. It was a retail and whoelsaler of U.S. and England made knives. Some of the knives were made by Utica but this dogleg jack looks suspiciously made by, or at least the bone looks like it came from Napanoch.?.? What do ya think?

If this was made by Napanoch, that would put this knife somewhere around the 19-teens. More evidence of age is the hammered pins which puts this knife around or before the 19-teens.

Notice how rounded over the bolsters are. Some old catalogs had advertising noting "Fully Rounded Handles" on knives, which would be important for comfort in daily use.

tyronco-doglegjack-1.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-2.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-3.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-4.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-5.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-6.jpg


tyronco-doglegjack-7.jpg
 
Last edited:
The bone definitely looks more Napanoch than Utica.
Real nice knife!
 
Reese put a set of Stag on a old Carving set that was my Dad's. I came home and found it at the Post Office..What a nice surprise...I may put a Turkey in the deep fry this weekend just so I can put it to use.

Thanks Brother..Your one of a kind..

p7290083.jpg
 
Randy,Very nice set.The stag is gorgeous & well matched.
-Vince
 
Hey Randy, is the "W" for WHO? :D Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;)

Anywho...here we have a minty (I love to say minty...it drives the knife (EHEM!) experts crazy) and extremely well kept old knife. According to it's mark, this knife by Wade & Butcher would have been made somewhere between 1818-1890(arrow and XCD indicators). Crazyass nice stag and clean as a whistle, this 5 1/4" lockback appears to be frozen in time. How does a knife like this survive a trip thru EBAY!!!

Feel free to mention if you see anything hinky about it, but it sure looks like the real deal to the pirates of Wilfred. :D

wade&butcherlockback-1.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-2.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-3.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-4.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-5.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-6.jpg


wade&butcherlockback-7.jpg
 
Hey Kerry since we are using words like "minty", "crazyass" and "hinky", I would like to say that Wade & Butcher is groovy! I dig it!

Do you have any background on the arrow / cross stamp?
 
texasflyfisher said:
Hey Kerry since we are using words like "minty", "crazyass" and "hinky", I would like to say that Wade & Butcher is groovy! I dig it!

Do you have any background on the arrow / cross stamp?
Click to expand...

I'm guessing those are British hallmarks. I haven't looked that stuff up in a while but I believe the "cross" indicates "Sheffield" and the "arrow" seems to be peculiar to Wade & Butcher.

Somebody else can correct me if I'm wrong...I'm used to it. :p
 
Registered trademarks:
2nqzadu.jpg

Robert Wade joined W.&S. Butcher as their American agent in 1819. Their US brand was eventually changed to Wade & Butcher, according to Levine's Guide 4.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top