"Old Knives"

Question for everyone. Occasionally knives are posted here that are either obvious fakes or have had things done to them that were intended to inflate the value, making an abused knife appear to be in mint condition. I’m not going to publicly out anyone, but who would be interested in a private tutorial in spotting such things? I paid close attention to the lessons BRL gave back when he was active on his forum. If you are interested let me know, either by responding here or by PM.
 
lambertiana said:
Question for everyone. Occasionally knives are posted here that are either obvious fakes or have had things done to them that were intended to inflate the value, making an abused knife appear to be in mint condition. I’m not going to publicly out anyone, but who would be interested in a private tutorial in spotting such things? I paid close attention to the lessons BRL gave back when he was active on his forum. If you are interested let me know, either by responding here or by PM.
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I’m in. I do that on FB in the group I run. Pointing out fake knives to help the the community is a good thing
 
lambertiana said:
Question for everyone. Occasionally knives are posted here that are either obvious fakes or have had things done to them that were intended to inflate the value, making an abused knife appear to be in mint condition. I’m not going to publicly out anyone, but who would be interested in a private tutorial in spotting such things? I paid close attention to the lessons BRL gave back when he was active on his forum. If you are interested let me know, either by responding here or by PM.
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This sort of thing has been discussed a few times, and some people had the mindset that unless asked, they didn't want to offer 'bad news'. I think it would be good to have a different thread dedicated to discussion of fakes, modifications, frankenknives, etc. People could post questions about knives they own & have doubts about. It would be very educational.
 
As New, Allen & Son Sheffield, Medium Stag Stand-Up Pruner.

This one came from David Hayden-Wright's published collection. The Allen & Son tang stamp was used in the begininng of Joseph's career. Being it was a smaller shop, it's very likely he had his hands on this knife during production. It's by far the greatest knife that I own, and have had the privilege to hold and admire.

As most on here probably know, in 1883 Joseph's trademark changed to Joseph Allen & Son's, Non*XLL. The Non*XLL trademark was a "Tip of the hat" to George Wolstenholm's I*XL brand.

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WinMag775 said:
Allen & Son Sheffield, Medium Stag Stand-Up Pruner.
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Very nice knife!! Thanks for posting the catalog pics with it!!
lambertiana said:
Question for everyone. Occasionally knives are posted here that are either obvious fakes or have had things done to them that were intended to inflate the value, making an abused knife appear to be in mint condition. I’m not going to publicly out anyone, but who would be interested in a private tutorial in spotting such things? I paid close attention to the lessons BRL gave back when he was active on his forum. If you are interested let me know, either by responding here or by PM.
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Let's do it!!
 
WinMag775 said:
As New, Allen & Son Sheffield, Medium Stag Stand-Up Pruner.

This one came from David Hayden-Wright's published collection. The Allen & Son tang stamp was used in the begininng of Joseph's career. Being it was a smaller shop, it's very likely he had his hands on this knife during production. It's by far the greatest knife that I own, and have had the privilege to hold and admire.

As most on here probably know, in 1883 Joseph's trademark changed to Joseph Allen & Son's, Non*XLL. The Non*XLL trademark was a "Tip of the hat" to George Wolstenholm's I*XL brand.

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WinMag775, Congratulations on acquiring a great knife from the David Hayden-Wright collection.
That beautiful piece certainly belongs in the "Sheffield Golden Age" thread.
 
herder said:
WinMag775, Congratulations on acquiring a great knife from the David Hayden-Wright collection.
That beautiful piece certainly belongs in the "Sheffield Golden Age" thread.
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Thank you herder! That's most certainly my plan. I was fortunate enough to pick up 9 slipjoints from David's collection.
I'm new to the forum and was rubbing elbows with the fine gents on this thread before they were posted all at once in the Sheffield Golden Age. I'll take detailed pictures with catalog pictures when I do!

Mike
 
lambertiana said:
Question for everyone. Occasionally knives are posted here that are either obvious fakes or have had things done to them that were intended to inflate the value, making an abused knife appear to be in mint condition. I’m not going to publicly out anyone, but who would be interested in a private tutorial in spotting such things? I paid close attention to the lessons BRL gave back when he was active on his forum. If you are interested let me know, either by responding here or by PM.
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I am all for that type of discussion, as it is certainly educational for everyone. I frequent another knife forum that has a counterfeit discussion section. For the most part, it is a good thing, as it can highlight things to look for. On the rare occasion though, it can lead to hard feelings, as some don't like to find out the knives they paid good money for are likely fake.
 
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