"Old Knives"

[wlfryjr]

Nice Counter cloth Mike, awesome to see!

Now to drag the quality of this fine thread down somewhat.....

I came across this knife locally- being a bigger knife with what I think is quite nice Bone handles, I thought I would pick it up- I didn't cost a lot as you can see why, it must have had a good gathering of Rust and unfortunately - possibly the seller has cleaned this knife to the degree that it is sickeningly shiny with multitudes of pitting, NOTHING looks worse!
I notice that there are a LOT of old Sheffield's and older American knives on Facebook etc that are just gleaming- and everyone is coming expressing just how neat the knife is, I really have to bite my tongue and not say " Actually that knife looks bloody horrible and it's now a knife that has the guts buffed out of it" but you would become public enemy number one.
What are your opinions as I value them?

Any way, after my moan, back to this old thing........

Tang Stamp: "THE BURGHAM"
The Blade is stamped ( not etched) "SAILOR KNIFE" with a stamped figure of sorts I can't quite make out.

The blade looks very similar to Silver Steel, but this could be just from the excessive wire wheeling and Buffing - whatever they have done.
Note the damage to the Bone by the Bolster- I am sure this would have been done with a wire wheel.

A large Knife @ 4 & 5/8ths inches closed.

Should I try to add Patina back to this Knife - in the way of Mustard, Lemon juice etc- just to get rid of the offending shine? Please share your thoughts on this

Damage has already been done Duncan, no use doing anything else. Otherwise ,I agree wholeheartedly . I loved Tony Foster , but I never saw patina on his Case knives and hardly any other collectors' Cases.

 

[galvanic1882]

Some clues??!!
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Picture from "Smith's Key"!!


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Old "Oates" Barlow!!!

Man that’s a sweet Barlow you got there Charlie

 

[galvanic1882]

Here’s a really old whittler, I believe it’s an 1833-1845 piece Birds Eye pins, flush joints really thin, sweet English knife

 

[waynorth]

Man that’s a sweet Barlow you got there Charlie

Thanks, Mike!! It's probably approaching 200 years!!

 

[waynorth]

Here's a really old whittler; I believe it’s an 1833-1845 piece! Birds Eye pins, flush joints really thin, sweet English knife!!

Amazing OLD knife, Mike!! What talent, to create such a piece!!

 

[Falcata]

Here’s a really old View attachment 3177908View attachment 3177909View attachment 3177910View attachment 3177911View attachment 3177912whittler, I believe it’s an 1833-1845 piece Birds Eye pins, flush joints really thin, sweet English knife

A piece of history—it might be more expensive or cheaper, but it's a well-documented piece of history. To me, that’s what collecting is all about

 

[wlfryjr]

Here’s a really old View attachment 3177908View attachment 3177909View attachment 3177910View attachment 3177911View attachment 3177912whittler, I believe it’s an 1833-1845 piece Birds Eye pins, flush joints really thin, sweet English knife

Thanks, Mike!! It's probably approaching 200 years!!

2 OLD and very nice knives Charlie and Mike.

Mike that thinness is very apparent in those old Sheffield knives .

 

[Pt-Luso]

 

[Jack Sides]

My oldest is an English fruit knife. Carved MOP Back and blade are decorated Hallmarked Sheffield 1846

 

[Falcata]

Josep Monserrat Pou? Yo soy de Mataró (Barcelona) Filarmónica?

Josep Montserrat Pou? I'm from Mataró (Barcelona). Filarmónica? Josep & sons
Does it say 'Filarmónica' anywhere?
You have a collector's piece from Spain. It must be from after World War II ('45 or '50?). What a great joy.

 

[Falcata]

Today's mail: Two Batemans (horn, one for a scale restoration) and an Opinel from between 1955 and 1967 (early Viroblocs)...

 

[Campbellclanman]

Damage has already been done Duncan, no use doing anything else. Otherwise ,I agree wholeheartedly . I loved Tony Foster , but I never saw patina on his Case knives and hardly any other collectors' Cases.

Thank you Lyle matey, I think I wil use the knife for a while like Tyson suggested, that will sit well with me in a way with an earned patina, it will be a better knife than what it is now.
Hope you guys are doing great!

 

[Jack Sides]

case 1930 to 1940 long tail c

 

[Jack Sides]

My Cub scout knife from 1962 My first knife and I still have it.

 

[Oldy]

Thanks Cal, appreciate it.

Tyson, I got ya! I agree, I may turn this into my Steak knife, I use my GEC 23 religiously on my Steak- every time I have a Steak- this knife is used, so I may in turn swap these over, I will clean this old Knife out big time first, then put an edge on the Ol' girl. Thank you my friend for your thoughts.

Personally I think you lucked into the perfect fire pit/yard/bbq knife that you don't have to worry about the character and collectors value being destroyed,I use the 54 stag moose for that.

 

[swag1953]

Found this at a local antique store not long ago. Ol Cut, Union Cutlery Co. that could be close to 100 years old or more. Strong snap, no wobble, and very sharp. Had to get it. Never saw one before.

 

[tongueriver]

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[majorpain1]

I haven't added an English Jack to the collection in a long time. I just received this Western. The tang stamp is interesting. The arched "Western States" Boulder, Colo stamp was used from 1911-1950, but without the "MADE IN U.S.A." below. From the research I've done, Western started adding the "MADE IN U.S.A." in 1947, so that would date this knife 1947-50 to the best of my knowledge.

 

[tongueriver]

I have heard that the tang stamp information as found in "The Knife Makers Who Went West" is speculative at best and grossly inaccurate at worst. My intuition (with absolutely no evidence except being around old knives quite a bit) is that your lovely knife was made closer to 1930 than 1950. I hope more knowledgeable afficionados chime in.

 

[swag1953]

Old Pal Easy Open maybe from the 1940's or 1950's. Found at local estate sale. Owner's initials carved into the bone, secondary blade whittled down pretty good, main blade in good shape, strong half stop and snap, and no wobble on either blade. I think that the bone is very nice.