"Old Knives"

A pair of matching pen knives. Both made by New York Knife Co. The top knife next to the catalog cut is stamped HAMMER BRAND on the master blade and NEW YORK KNIFE CO WALDEN on the pen. The lower one is stamped WALLKILL RIVER WORKS WALDEN, N.Y. on both blades. Other than the nice swedge grind on the master of the NYK and the different shields, the 2 knives are the same.....I wonder if the Wallkill was sold at a lower retail price back in 1928-1930? The wholesale price in the NYK catalog (1908) was $10.00 per dozen (about 84 cents each).
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Here's a few more then I'll stop,,,,for now.:D First is HSB in pyremite, next is a Brantford Cutlery EO, what's interesting about this knife is how many times have you seen a clip blade on an easy opener? Never, they're usually spear blades. The story behind this knife is one that Bernard Levine helped me figure out at the OKCA show in 2012. I knew it was original or at least looked that way to me, so I took the knife over to his table and asked him about it. He examined it and thought so too, then said "Let me see that again" he said it was original in every way but the notch had been added later, probably by the original owner back then. "You can feel the roughness in the cut of it" he said. Of course he was right. The knife is tight as a drum and walk and talk is amazing. I have seen catalogs that showed pictures of Remington made EOs, back in the day, that did have Clip main blades. The third is AMERICAN SHEAR, probably dating to the late 1800s. It also has great walk and talk and is very solid. Ebony on both of these.
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^^ The handles on the HSB are interesting, I've never seen pyremite with that "glow" at the edges, it almost looks like it has a liner underneath them. Is that an illusion or does it look that way in person?

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That's a pretty true to life picture clutch. The top and bottom of the these handles do kind of stand out. Thank you!
 
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Knives :

Brookes & Crookes 3 1/2" 5 blade pearl wharncliff pattern w / silver main blade

Needham Brothers 3 1/2" pearl equal end flat bolster w / highly flexible spatula main blade

J. Nowill & Sons 3 7/8" 5 blade champagne pattern

Joseph Rodgers & Sons 3 7/8" Ivory 5 blade swell center whittler w/ pinched and scribed bolsters
 
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Wow - what beauties Vince!
Perry - would it be the dyes have faded from the top of the Celluloid giving the appearance of the "glow" effect on the HSB? Lovely knives that trio - the person who did the Easy Opener Notch did a nice job if you couldn't tell straight away!
The American Shear is just gorgeous! - what size is it closed?
 
Thank you Duncan! Could be but I tend to think it was this way originally. I have seen other similar handles on others that look the same.
Yes, even Levine couldn't tell straight away, had to look a second time. The length on that American Shear is 4 inches closed. It had some use but not much, the skinner blade has very little wear and seems to have been well taken care of.
 
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Thank you Duncan! Could be but I tend to think it was this way originally. I have seen other similar handles on others that look the same.
Yes, even Levine couldn't tell straight away, had to look a second time. The length on that American Shear is 4 inches closed. It had some use but not much, the skinner blade has very little wear and seems to have been well taken care of.
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Thank you for the reply Perry, its a real pleasure looking at your fantastic knives, very inspiring!
 
Thank you so much Duncan, I have a few that just won't ever leave and others that stay for a little while then move on. Here's an old SCHRADE CUT CO. that I won't ever get rid of because of the barely used condition it's in. The jigging in the handles look nearly new. Blades line up perfectly in the bed and snaps like a bear trap!
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This is a circa 1943 Robeson Perma-Lube 643645 four blade scout/utility, apparently purchased and mailed to one Ray Murchison stationed at the San Diego Naval Training Center by his friends and former fellow employees at Paramount Pictures following his enlistment during WWII.

That, of course, is assuming the knife has been in that box since 1943, which is the date on the mailing label. A bold assumption, I know.

The knife, however, is a great example of Robeson's inventiveness. The Perma-Lube knives had bronze bearings inlaid into the inside surfaces of the ends of the backsprings, upon which the ends of the blades bore and the knives opened and closed smooth as silk.

Earlier, Robeson had marketed similar knives in a line called, MasterCraft. They had the bearing inletted around the ends of the blade tangs and were horse-shoe in shape. Those, however, had a tendency to fall off, leaving the two or three little V shaped indentations to catch on the spring, causing the blade to stop in multiple positions between opened and closed.

After Emerson Case was hired to manage Robeson in 1940, it was decided to make the bearing part of the spring. They changed the line's name to Perma-Lube and most, if not all, these knives were fitted with a bronze shield.

The pattern numbers were the same for the patterns in both lines.

The MasterCraft and Perma-Lube 643645 scout/utilities are the most rare of all the various Robeson scout knife patterns.

I do not think the Perma-Lube line was produced for very long. They introduced it in 1940 and I doubt they continued it very far into WWII.

These are auction photos. The knife has been listed multiple times the past three weeks, with decreasing Buy-It-Now prices. I finally bought it yesterday and it's enroute.

I think this is a great knife and a very rare find. This is the only Perma-Lube scout I've ever seen and I've only seen one MasterCraft scout in a Bruce Voyles auction several years ago. I bid on it, but lost.









 
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Perry, -my friend, I just hate to be the bearer of bad news, that Schrade is no good, the Bone has been abused so terribly that it has all these elongated chips out the side of the once beautiful smooth Bone, the bone looks so bad it looks like a Peach seed!
And to top it all off, someone has worn the Clip-point out until it looks like a leaf of a tree - no good at all mate, send it to me, ands I will dispose of this knife for you - please...theres no need to thank me with this, we here at Traditionals are a pretty close bunch, and thus the sacrifice I make for you.



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WOW! That's a beauty right smack there!!!!


Charlie - Sir, now that is a beautifully conditioned knife - what a score, if I was you I would be patting myself on the back with THAT score!

Guys -two top-notch knives - thank you for showing us!

( Is it me or does this thread just get better and better? - I didn't think it could? )
 
LOL, I would like to say that's the first I've heard of this little scam you're trying to pull off Duncan, but I ain't new to this dance. Thank you!
 
singin50, that Schrade sure is a sweetheart! I like how the bone appears as though it was sawcut first, before it was jigged. Very cool!
 
Exactly right puukkoman, those little saw cut marks then peachseed jig underneath is one of my favorite things about it. Thank you sir!
 
This old Robeson is a cousin to another I have. Great bone and snap on this one. I'll try to get some better pics once it warms up a bit.

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