"Old Knives"

I'd not re-tip the knife unless the tip was snapped off, but that's just me. It is what it is, and it is still quite functional.
 
Wormil said:
Inherited a sack full of knives from my dad, many he inherited from his dad or uncles. Here's one I can't quite make out. It says Made in NY, and above that: NA????CH KNIFE CO.

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Napanoch is well known for quality and it's a nice heirloom knife. I love that it is all original. Beautiful. Too many old knives have been completely resurfaced or polished, removing every trace of original finish.

Augie said:
Just added this Wade&Butcher pruner, not marked England, appears to have XCO stamped on blade, not sure what that stands for.

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Nice pruner. I have a knife from W&B but it's not etched. I think I've seen the etch before but don't remember where.... it may have been a catalog.

black mamba said:
Robeson ShurEdge Rochester, 1922-'39, 3.10" MOP tip bolstered pen knife.

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Some nice fiery pearl on that one!

Campbellclanman said:
Jeff, thats a really cool Pearl Robeson, very very nice to see - thats a cool knife my friend!

I picked up this locally - which is a wee bit of a coup because you dont see too many older Case Fixed blades around here.
Pretty good nick I guess, its between 1945 and 1965 so its as Old as I am - for that I feel sorry for it, a nice honest knife - the tip ( as per usual ) is rounded, heres a question for you folk.

1, Would you re-tip it to a nice point, I am not going to use the knife ( that I know of, I just bought it for keepsies ) - I can re-tip the knife very well if I had to without having to polish the blade or anything like that at all, and I find when you do this the knife with a nice crisp point to the Clip always looks the better knife - love to hear your opinions as I do value them.
The original Sheath is inside the reinforced outer.
Duncan.

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People will have different opinions. I tend to be somewhat conservative about old knives (some might say ultra conservative) and I think it's an acceptable modification. It's not like buffing bolsters which should be against the law. :D If the knife had been handed down from my grandfather, I may want to preserve how it was used. But in this case, I would put a new tip and edge on the blade if it would make the knife more enjoyable to me. It's your knife so whatever you prefer is the right choice.

Btw, I think there was a similar discussion a few years back and BRL said that he considered it normal use. He said the same about cutting a new choil and at the time that sort of surprised me. But I can see both sides.


Some nice old knives being posted!
 
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Campbellclanman said:
Wormil Sir
Its great you are using that knife- but please take my advice, use it gently, dont sharpen it too much as you have a Napanoch that has a relatively full blade - leave it that way, and THANK YOU so much for the extra photo's. I HAVE ENJOYED THE VIEWING IMMENSELY..
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My pleasure. If I run into anything else interesting I'll be sure to post it. Some are broken, quite a few have nearly invisible markings. Dad's family were farmers during the Depression so knives got used hard and until they were worn out. It's a miracle really that that Napanoch made it through. I'm not carrying the Napanoch anymore, I did briefly but the blade is a bit stiff. It's scalpel sharp, I was wiping down the blade with a towel and it sliced through the towel and into my finger and I didn't even realize until I saw blood.
 
Thanks for the comments guys - taken in and processing!
Great Thread, Great knives shown by our good folk here, always a pleasure.
 
leghog said:
I'd not re-tip the knife unless the tip was snapped off, but that's just me. It is what it is, and it is still quite functional.
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Had to re-tip this old craftsman because it was broken off. KO WS did the trick nicely:

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Figure it's probably from the 50's and was ordered out of a Sears catalog. Almost assuredly made by Schrade.

Got it from my mother-in-law and it was one of her father's knives.
 
I received this Tested 6345 1/2 Cattle Knife in the mail today. I like it even more than I thought I would. Looks like someone has done some cleaning on it and the main blade has been nicely reshaped.

A really sweet old knife.









 
Thanks, Jeff. Yep, 1920-1940 production. The covers are not bone. I believe Case called it Imitation Jigged Bone. I don't think Case was using Delrin this early but it's a similar synthetic of some type. Probably the primary factor that kept the knife in my price range.
 
This one might belong with the Old Wrecks. I'm guessing 1950's?




 
In reference to post above re Case Tested handle material, Delrin was first used for knife handles in 1960 by Schrade-Walden. Albert Baer played a part in Dupont's development of Delrin. (took years to get the exact properties desired).
Is the tang marking on the Master blade "o.k." ?
kj
 
kootenay joe said:
In reference to post above re Case Tested handle material, Delrin was first used for knife handles in 1960 by Schrade-Walden. Albert Baer played a part in Dupont's development of Delrin. (took years to get the exact properties desired).
Is the tang marking on the Master blade "o.k." ?
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Hi Joe, I remember reading something like that too. That's why I implied that it isn't Delrin but something similar.

I bought the knife from a very trusted source. I'm confident that the tang stamp is legit.
 
Railsplitter said:
Hi Joe, I remember reading something like that too. That's why I implied that it isn't Delrin but something similar.

I bought the knife from a very trusted source. I'm confident that the tang stamp is legit.
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Sargent's 7th lists a 6345 1/2 from the 1920 -1940 Tested XX era in imitation bone. I believe the material is the same as the Case slick black and rough black material. Steve Pfeiffer says slick black is from the early years of Case, was also referred to as "black composition" and may have been a type of celluloid. Case started using delrin for smooth black handles in the mid to late 196o's (also from "Collecting Case Knives" by Steve Pfeiffer.
No expert, but the tang stamp looks good to me.
Dan
 
danno50 said:
Sargent's 7th lists a 6345 1/2 from the 1920 -1940 Tested XX era in imitation bone. I believe the material is the same as the Case slick black and rough black material. Steve Pfeiffer says slick black is from the early years of Case, was also referred to as "black composition" and may have been a type of celluloid. Case started using delrin for smooth black handles in the mid to late 196o's (also from "Collecting Case Knives" by Steve Pfeiffer.
No expert, but the tang stamp looks good to me.
Dan
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Thanks for the info, Dan. Much appreciated.
 
Re: my comment about stamping on the Case Cattle knife. Further discussion shows it is absolutely a 100% all original Case knife.
kj
 
I'm sure I can't be the only one thinking that this is one of the best threads and the greatest source of knowledge on BF.
Great knives folks. Every time I come back here, I learn something new.
Rick, your knife will probably be used as model for a custom knife in the near future ;)

Fausto
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quattromori said:
I'm sure I can't be the only one thinking that this is one of the best threads and the greatest source of knowledge on BF.
Great knives folks. Every time I come back here, I learn something new.
Rick, your knife will probably be used as model for a custom knife in the near future ;)

Fausto
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Fausto, a custom Cattle Knife would be awesome. Every one that I have ever seen was drop dead gorgeous, regardless of the maker. Best wishes on having yours made. I have no doubt that it will be one of the best knives you've ever owned.
 
I agree this is one of the best threads. new traditionals are cool but there is nothing like a old knife that can tell a story.
 
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