"Old Knives"

[338375]

From the 1926 Schrade Catalog. Just how they done it! Danged if it isn't a dead ringer. I added a picture of the big brother. Slightly longer knife, and a slightly longer chain.

Great knife Charlie, and she still has her chain :thumbup:


338375, that is a button loop on the end of the chain. a button will pass through the wide end and then the loop is pulled down (to the end that looks like the top of a bell) and it would stay behind the button, then just drop the knife in your pocket :thumbup:

Thanks for the pics and the info guys. I had never seen one before. When I look at them, it reminds me of an old fish stringer.

 

[ken erickson]

From the 1926 Schrade Catalog. Just how they done it! Danged if it isn't a dead ringer. I added a picture of the big brother. Slightly longer knife, and a slightly longer chain.

Its very interesting to note the upgrades in the 2283 compared to the 2153

2283 has a shield
2283 has long pull and swedge
2283 is 1/8 longer
2283 has "cleaned inside" compared to "black inside"
2283 has brass liners with nickle silver bolsters
2283 has crocus polished blade on one side of master
They even saw fit to put a 2 inch longer chain on the 2283!

I wonder what the retail price difference was!

Ken

 

[338375]

Its very interesting to note the upgrades in the 2283 compared to the 2153

2283 has a shield
2283 has long pull and swedge
2283 is 1/8 longer
2283 has "cleaned inside" compared to "black inside"
2283 has brass liners with nickle silver bolsters
2283 has crocus polished blade on one side of master
They even saw fit to put a 2 inch longer chain on the 2283!

I wonder what the retail price difference was!

Ken

Good eye Ken. I have never heard it referred to as "cleaned inside or black inside". I noticed the 53 was available in Cocobolo as well. I wonder how the production numbers compare between the Cocobolo and the bone ?

 

[waynorth]

They even had a smaller version, and a Scout version of the small one. Same Catalog.

The wood handled one was probably the cheapest. I guess you would clip it onto one of your "suspender" buttons on your jeans; remember those??

 

[338375]

They even had a smaller version, and a Scout version of the small one. Same Catalog.

The wood handled one was probably the cheapest. I guess you would clip it onto one of your "suspender" buttons on your jeans; remember those??

Having grown up in the Logging industry, I still have some of them
Now I gotta find me one of the knives with the chain to complete the package. I have a feeling that it might take me a while.

 

[waynorth]

If these were identical, I'd offer you one Mike, but this one has the more usual Schrade Jigging, used I think before Peachseed. Wish I knew when that "basketweave" occurred???

This one also has a finer link chain.

 

[4ever3]

Another beauty !

 

[338375]

If these were identical, I'd offer you one Mike, but this one has the more usual Schrade Jigging, used I think before Peachseed. Wish I knew when that "basketweave" occurred???

This one also has a finer link chain.

I truly appreciate the thought Charlie... I like the fine chain, that must have been the "Sunday go ta meetin" knife" Another beauty, I really enjoy looking at your pics.
I am curious when the "basketweave" was done too.

 

[canineforge]

The wife and I enjoy hitting the antique stores on road trips. Just happened to be in one yesterday. I always check out the old knives in these places, but rarely purchase one. Enjoy seeing what is out there, but they usually seemed overpriced, and most often in poor condition. But, this one spoke to me yesterday, and it had to make the trip home with us.

I am not real versed in old folders and their history, but I really do like them and I am learning. Thought I would post this one. I did a brief history search last night and about all I learned was that this Saphleigh Hardware/Diamond Edge folder was made pre-1960 and probably 600 different patterns were made through Saphleigh over the years.

It has seen some use with tang and ribbed bolster wear, but the blades have sure not experienced much abuse. The scales have some shrinkage, but not too bad. Anyway, I liked it enough to share. Plus, I would welcome any additional history.

- Joe

 

[4ever3]

That is an outstanding piece of cutlery. One fine Eureka Jack right there what a find :thumbup:

 

[d.parker]

Nice Catch really like it. It looks to be a expensive knife in it's day bone handles, threaded bolsters, with a lower bolster and a shield. Beautiful Rogers Bone me thinks?

 

[waynorth]

How long is that knife Joe?

 

[canineforge]

How long is that knife Joe?

3 5/8ths-inch closed. 6 1/2-inches opened.

I was wondering about the bone? It has held up well. This is a well made knife and has good snap with half-stops. I don't think the small blade has been opened or used much at all.

- Joe

 

[338375]

I can see why that one spoke to ya. Thats a great find.

 

[waynorth]

Empire made a lot of knives for Shapleigh and Norvell-Shapleigh. Later 1800s until about 1930. This catalog offers the knives with either Shapleigh or Empire branding.
Here's a catalog that shows a similar pattern at 3 1/2". A lot of the diamond shields that Empire put on them were smooth. Other cutleries, like Schrade, used a "D-E" stamped diamond shield.
This cut is ca. 1907-1911.

Can you do a closer pic of the jigging?

 

[Mike Robuck]

A real find Joe. I like everything about it.

 

[JatMat]

Good score Joe, thanks for sharing,
Jim

 

[canineforge]

Appreciate all the comments and I.D. help. Posting a few more shots. The pen blade is off center, but good ol' brass liners don't seem to scuff the blade any. Plus, a backside shot, Charlie. Nice bone, and the middle pin seems to have some damage around it, but it is just the way the bone and jigging is shaped there. Plus, some shrinkage.

Thanks, Joe

 

[sunnyd]

I finally got lucky.. During a partial demolition and partial remodel project I contracted for recently on an older duplex house near lake Okeechobee over the last several weeks, I was given the leftover remaining contents of the home by the current owner in an attempt to get me to haul away all of the trash and debris in lue of actual payment for said removal. I agreed because of some the antiques and appliances that could be salvaged..

.. And then... hit on a small treasure trove of vintage camping gear, fishing tackle, firearms paraphernalia and other personal items, including a little box of knives. Amongst these knives were a decent hand full of slipjoints by Camillus, Case, Kamp-King, Imperial, Olsen OK, Schrade and few Kutmaters. I was like a little kid in a candy store.

Here is one of the KUTMASTERS that works like new and snaps loud and fast so I am carrying her today and I thought I'd share it here with you all too..

 

[waynorth]

Nice MOTS Anthony! You must show us more of your treasures!!