"Old Knives"

Beautiful Henkels Mike, outstanding covers:cool::thumbsup:

Duncan, VERY neat knife and obviously it's right outta a James Bond movie;):D
 
Sweet Waterville, Aluminum pen Long Blade!! :thumbsup: It just so happens this pattern was going to be the next S&M I had figured on posting! ;) Great minds think alike!!:D:D

Duncan, that Lockwood English beauty sure looks like a Tank!! Love the blade stamp!! :cool:

Love the Stag on the Henckels Mike, as Long Blade said the shield on the 2 blade is quite unusual!! :cool: Could we possibly see the pile sides of those two Beauties?

These next few knives I just recently acquired. I got wind that a major Schatt collector and historian was selling his collection and moving on to different things in life. For those of you who know David Clark, you know he has been interested in pocketknives all his life. He got interested in S&M and Queen Cutlery and has really brought to light many artifacts that would most likely been lost for good if not for his passion and investigating.
David co-wrote a book with David Krauss on the Dollar knives connection to Schatt and Morgan. He has written many articles in "Knife World" over the years. He also was the person who tracked down a relative of either John W. Schatt or C.B. Morgan, I can't remember which, and brought to light the S&M 1903 and 1908 Catalogs, which he had reproduced. From those catalogs he was instrumental in getting the "Heritage Series" made. Unfortunately Queen so far has only produced two releases of the Heritage Series, but I still have hope! ;)

I feel Very fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time to not only acquire some of David's collection but also some of his knowledge and historical "finds," so they don't get re-lost.
I decided before I posted in this thread that I would only post the "old" knives here, the pre-Titusville knives and start another Schatt and Morgan thread so as not to side track this Great thread completely!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Similar to the Waterville pen, this Schatt is 3 1/4" closed, sunk joints and half stops, french pulls and New York tang stamp. Please excuse the horse hair in the 1st pic! :confused:
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Changing things up abit with another knife to share - Here is another Waterville knife - an aluminum pen with the classic engraving... 3" closed length and note fully sunk joints (I am sure this made it easy to throw in your nice trousers back in the day :D )... master blade even has a match striker long pull ;) ...

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Thanks for looking!
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Very cool knife. It would have been fun to peak over the shoulder of the person who did the work on those handles.
 
That is a great Old Knife Lee- would have been quite an item in it's day- as it still is.

I came across this older Lockwood Bros. Knife the other day- now dont get me wrong folks- these are simply not the most attractive Knives that were made- but man the Blade are something else- with absolute minmal use- both blades full.
This Knife doesnt have England stamped on the Knife- which isnt always to say its pre 1890's because it may have been intended for local sale and not export?
Both Blades having marvelous and typical Swedge work- all heavily stamped- with the Ostrich & Real Knife- Pampa...this stamping was used because to battle prolific copying of Lockwoods work coming from Solingen in the earlier days.

I have found that the only other "Cold Finger Knife" that I have come across is the single bladed version with Brass Scales, the single balded knives had the registration number : REGd.No. 6411S, Where as this Aluminium two bladed Knife I have here has the registration number : REGd.No. 64115, theres no mistaking the difference between the 5 and S - the S means single?
Both the Wharncliffe and the Spey have had little use- extremely strong Snap with nice thick springs -a stout Knife from a Great Sheffield Cutler....

My Question to anyone who may know...what is the meaning of a Cold Finger Knife?

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Very interesting knife and I don't remember seeing one quite like that before.
 
So after getting the IXL senators knife last week, I started thinking about knives that were clearly marketed towards the US. I have another Wostenholm with "Virginian" on the blade. And these two Henckels (circa 1930s, I think) seem to have co-opted another company's branding.
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Two outstanding examples from one of my favorite companies!!!
 
Sweet Waterville, Aluminum pen Long Blade!! :thumbsup: It just so happens this pattern was going to be the next S&M I had figured on posting! ;) Great minds think alike!!:D:D

Duncan, that Lockwood English beauty sure looks like a Tank!! Love the blade stamp!! :cool:

Love the Stag on the Henckels Mike, as Long Blade said the shield on the 2 blade is quite unusual!! :cool: Could we possibly see the pile sides of those two Beauties?

These next few knives I just recently acquired. I got wind that a major Schatt collector and historian was selling his collection and moving on to different things in life. For those of you who know David Clark, you know he has been interested in pocketknives all his life. He got interested in S&M and Queen Cutlery and has really brought to light many artifacts that would most likely been lost for good if not for his passion and investigating.
David co-wrote a book with David Krauss on the Dollar knives connection to Schatt and Morgan. He has written many articles in "Knife World" over the years. He also was the person who tracked down a relative of either John W. Schatt or C.B. Morgan, I can't remember which, and brought to light the S&M 1903 and 1908 Catalogs, which he had reproduced. From those catalogs he was instrumental in getting the "Heritage Series" made. Unfortunately Queen so far has only produced two releases of the Heritage Series, but I still have hope! ;)

I feel Very fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time to not only acquire some of David's collection but also some of his knowledge and historical "finds," so they don't get re-lost.
I decided before I posted in this thread that I would only post the "old" knives here, the pre-Titusville knives and start another Schatt and Morgan thread so as not to side track this Great thread completely!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Similar to the Waterville pen, this Schatt is 3 1/4" closed, sunk joints and half stops, french pulls and New York tang stamp. Please excuse the horse hair in the 1st pic! :confused:
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Beautiful example and in such wonderful original condition. First S&M in that style which I have seen.
 
These next 2 knives are even pre-S&M!! :eek::eek::cool: They have New York Cutlery Company tang stamps. All tangs are also stamped "M. in Germany" which is odd for this first knife because the blade stamps read "English Solid Steel" o_O
2 backspring Moose pattern with lovely jigged bone. French pulls, 3 7/8" closed, still crisp half stops, and Great W/T. The bone is certainly hafted "German style"
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Thanks LongBlade, Charlie, Paul, lambertiana, Dave and herder. I'll see if I can get pics of the pile sides. The stockman stag on the pile side is curved a bit.

I agree, lambertiana, Duncan's knife would be killer with ebony scales!

Dave, great knives. Keep them coming. Another forum member told me recently about David Clark about a month ago. I'm glad you got some of his knives, and were able to talk to him in person!
 
That is the first NY Cutlery stamp I have seen! What a great specimen also!
Historic piece, Dave!! Nice going!!
 
Dave, just AMAZING knives my friend...man those German halfted style bone covers are truly eye catching:thumbsup: Love the blade etch as well, so:cool:
 
Thank You Herder, Mike, Charlie and Paul ! :)
Paul that etch is really a Very deep stamp!!:cool: I edited that post to add the blade stamp for YOU!! :p:D

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This old Schatt my Friend Paul fell completely in love with! If I had not just got it and if it wasn't such a rare old girl, I'm sure it would be our Friend from Nort Dakooota's knife! He loved it that much!! ;):D:D
This Beautifully jigged bone, close to peach seed, EO pattern is 3 1/2" closed, solid half stops and snap, once again no pull on the main Big leaf spear and nick on the pen, etch is still quite visible and reads "FINZER'S TOBACCO KNIFE", brass liners and pins, Sweet Cut swedge! :D tang stamp is New York with the "curved" X between the S&M once again! :cool:
This old girl has all the bells and whistles!!:cool::cool::cool:
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All right!! Down to the last 2 "old" Schatts! :(:rolleyes: Beauty and the Beasty !!
This 4 blade MOP Humpback Congress pattern had to be expensive in it's day, hell it was expensive today!! :eek:;):D All 4 blades have New York stamps and half stops, 3 1/2" closed, sunk joints, nickle-silver pins and bar shield, brass liners with the center liner having a coined edge JUST inside the bed! :cool: the backsprings are completely covered with N/S plate. A bunch of us studied this knife at the GEC Rendezvous Picnic and Evan finally figured out how they built it. The Pearl has Beautiful fire that I wish would photograph better, a lot of pinks and blues! :cool: Can't believe they decided to cut a shield in it but it is still today as tight as can be! :thumbsup:
Here is Beauty!!:D A true masterpiece of the cutlers art!!
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