"Old Knives"

[rockman0]

@Cambertree Thanks for the information! I appreciate you taking the time and posting pictures. Very interesting knives, I really like the 2 full size blades. This particular knife came from an estate in Massachusetts so no telling how it found it's way to the states. The covers may not be wood, it has a grain to it but so do some of the synthetic materials, I'm not sure how to tell the difference on this knife.

Jack Black glad you enjoyed seeing it and more pics to come in the lambsfoot thread. It's dark here before work and again when I get home so I'll get it outside Saturday for pictures.

waynorth Thanks for solidifying my decision to not alter the knife. At this point I doubt I'll sharpen it. Strictly a coon finger and chicken eye knife.

 

[herder]

A guy needs a pair of running shoes to keep up with this thread.

Knowtracks - Beautiful examples of Schatt & Morgans with so many interesting features. I looked them over several times.

Augie - Very nice Navy knives and that Thomatson is certainly uncommon.

Jac3 - great old S & M camper.

waynorth - Those Ulsters are just fantastic, wouldn't they look good in a book.

Jack - Wonderful group of gentleman's knives, I hope they all get a rotation in your pocket.

rockman0 - Great old Taylor model. Both Jack and Cambertree have lead you in the right direction, and I would just add a little more.
In a 1928 catalog from Taylor, they call your model a "Stock Knife" (livestock) and three models are shown with different blade configurations. Not just the secondary blades are different, but also the shapes of the main clip blades. Yours appears to have the main blade shape of the top model with the secondary sheep foot type blade of the bottom knife shown. The catalog does not give the handle type material, but I believe that your handles are horn. A catalog from a 1924 JNO. Baker (Australia) shows a similar model with a JNO. Baker sticker placed over the bolster. (Cambertree has shown the same cut) I believe that this was probably a Taylor model that Baker did not want to show for advertising reasons. It most likely had the "Taylor" stamp on the bolster, where the models from the 1928 catalog did not probably as a cost saving measure. So. I would date your knife to a time frame from around 1900 to the early 1920s based on the different blade markings and the bolster stamp. A great example and I would not touch it as others have suggested.

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[rockman0]

H herder thank you! That's great information and much appreciated !

 

[Jack Black]

Jack Black glad you enjoyed seeing it and more pics to come in the lambsfoot thread. It's dark here before work and again when I get home so I'll get it outside Saturday for pictures.

Thank you very much Rob

A guy needs a pair of running shoes to keep up with this thread.

Knowtracks - Beautiful examples of Schatt & Morgans with so many interesting features. I looked them over several times.

Augie - Very nice Navy knives and that Thomatson is certainly uncommon.

Jac3 - great old S & M camper.

waynorth - Those Ulsters are just fantastic, wouldn't they look good in a book.

Jack - Wonderful group of gentleman's knives, I hope they all get a rotation in your pocket.

rockman0 - Great old Taylor model. Both Jack and Cambertree have lead you in the right direction, and I would just add a little more.
In a 1928 catalog from Taylor, they call your model a "Stock Knife" (livestock) and three models are shown with different blade configurations. Not just the secondary blades are different, but also the shapes of the main clip blades. Yours appears to have the main blade shape of the top model with the secondary sheep foot type blade of the bottom knife shown. The catalog does not give the handle type material, but I believe that your handles are horn. A catalog from a 1924 JNO. Baker (Australia) shows a similar model with a JNO. Baker sticker placed over the bolster. (Cambertree has shown the same cut) I believe that this was probably a Taylor model that Baker did not want to show for advertising reasons. It most likely had the "Taylor" stamp on the bolster, where the models from the 1928 catalog did not probably as a cost saving measure. So. I would date your knife to a time frame from around 1900 to the early 1920s based on the different blade markings and the bolster stamp. A great example and I would not touch it as others have suggested.

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Very true!

Thank you my friend

Great post Would you be kind enough to also post the TEW catalogue cut to the Lambsfoot thread?

 

[smiling-knife]

Great research and information on the Eye Witness knives.

 

[smiling-knife]

This is another example of the Wostenholm WWI knife with the Canadian GI mark.

 

[waynorth]

herder, you are a wonderful source of information!!! You must have shelves full of reference material!!
s-k, you are great for putting up relevant examples!!! You must have one of everything!!!

Not as old as some knives in here, but likely as old as I am, here's some nice work from W.R.Case!! This is a 4-blade stockman with a punch, stamped Case XX (1940-1964), with beautiful jigging and dying, and nicely ground blades. Some of the finest old knives have a bit of blade rub, as does this one, but they have crammed 4 useful blades into a compact, if long (~4"), package. I love this knife!!

 

[Jack Black]

This is another example of the Wostenholm WWI knife with the Canadian GI mark. View attachment 794665

Excellent example S-K I'll have to dig out my IXL, also with the Canadian stamp, for a pic

herder, you are a wonderful source of information!!! You must have shelves full of reference material!!
s-k, you are great for putting up relevant examples!!! You must have one of everything!!!

Not as old as some knives in here, but likely as old as I am, here's some nice work from W.R.Case!! This is a 4-blade stockman with a punch, stamped Case XX (1940-1964), with beautiful jigging and dying, and nicely ground blades. Some of the finest old knives have a bit of blade rub, as does this one, but they have crammed 4 useful blades into a compact, if long (~4"), package. I love this knife!!





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Very fine Charlie

 

[LongBlade]

Got this in yesterday. I'm not familiar with how to date Taylor's stamps, any help is appreciated.

Just an awesome knife Rockoman ... a lambsfoot (or sheepsfoot) along with that big clip master is sweet!!!

Rob, that is a real find, an extremely interesting knife, and in fantastic condition too, considering it's age.

As Jack said, there were quite a few variants of the more commonly known British and American knife patterns made specifically for the Australian market. Some of the nomenclature of patterns was different in Australia, too - generally, pattern names were fairly basic and related to the knifes intended function. Your knife could well be a Bunny knife intended for the Australian market.

The Lambsfoot blade also turned up on Sportsman's knives in Australia, as well as on 'Two-bladed Stock Knives' like the Western Castrator, paired with a castrator/spey blade.

I''ve never seen that blade combination together before in a Bunny knife, though.

Here's a similar Taylor's Eye Witness Bunny knife with a full length castrator/spey secondary blade. (Apologies for my poor photo quality and distracting background.)

And some other Bunny Knives, for reference (these knives are all from my friend @1500international's collection, who I daresay, would also be very interested to see this knife):

Are you sure the handle cover material is not some type of rubber/synthetic composition?

Super set of Bunny knives ... never heard of these so thanks for sharing these and info Cambertree (and that catalog cut Jack)!!

This is another example of the Wostenholm WWI knife with the Canadian GI mark. View attachment 794665

S-K - Great addition to the thread - got to love a knife with history ...

herder, you are a wonderful source of information!!! You must have shelves full of reference material!!
s-k, you are great for putting up relevant examples!!! You must have one of everything!!!

Not as old as some knives in here, but likely as old as I am, here's some nice work from W.R.Case!! This is a 4-blade stockman with a punch, stamped Case XX (1940-1964), with beautiful jigging and dying, and nicely ground blades. Some of the finest old knives have a bit of blade rub, as does this one, but they have crammed 4 useful blades into a compact, if long (~4"), package. I love this knife!!





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Charlie - I can see why you really like that Case ....

Cheers
Lee

 

[rockman0]

L LongBlade Thanks Lee

 

[waynorth]

Thanks, Jack and Lee. Glad you like it!

 

[LongBlade]

Here’s another pen I picked up awhile back but got photos only a few weeks ago - don't have much time at the moment to get other knife photos I would like to share – anyway I ran into a string of jigged bone handled tip-bolstered pens over the last 4-6 months (strange how that happens sometimes and all obtained through different channels)…. I think I once mentioned I like nice pen knives as much as the big boys ;-) … anyway here’s a Griffon Bridgeport CT jigged bone tip-bolstered pen (3") with a cool bar shield… came with that nice pig skin slip which was cool… classic Griffon “illustration” pile side stamp… Griffon (1893-1968) the building sign indicates 1888) and headquartered in NYC had knives made in CT and MA (but for only 2-3 years in MA (1919-1921) and in Soligen Germany as well… mark side stamps usually indicate where they were made and the headquarters in NYC building still exists with the Griffon Cutlery sign (which notes scissors and shears but not knives) still on the side of the building (151 W 19th St) so I also included the photo I found on the internet for those interested…

Cheers
Lee

 

[paulhilborn]

Lee, EVERYTHING about that one is NICE The blades, tipped bolsters, and man THOSE COVERS thanks for the knife pictures (stellar) & the history

 

[Mike Robuck]

Great bone, great pictures, great knife, great history. Yup, I think I like your post Lee.

 

[smiling-knife]

That's a beauty Lee. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Old Bowie]

Here’s another pen I picked up awhile back but got photos only a few weeks ago - don't have much time at the moment to get other knife photos I would like to share – anyway I ran into a string of jigged bone handled tip-bolstered pens over the last 4-6 months (strange how that happens sometimes and all obtained through different channels)…. I think I once mentioned I like nice pen knives as much as the big boys ;-) … anyway here’s a Griffon Bridgeport CT jigged bone tip-bolstered pen (3") with a cool bar shield… came with that nice pig skin slip which was cool… classic Griffon “illustration” pile side stamp… Griffon (1893-1968) the building sign indicates 1888) and headquartered in NYC had knives made in CT and MA (but for only 2-3 years in MA (1919-1921) and in Soligen Germany as well… mark side stamps usually indicate where they were made and the headquarters in NYC building still exists with the Griffon Cutlery sign (which notes scissors and shears but not knives) still on the side of the building (151 W 19th St) so I also included the photo I found on the internet for those interested…

Cheers
Lee

 

[Old Bowie]

Great little knife Longblade. I just like the name. I've had a few.

 

[Old Bowie]

I agree don't touch it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Campbellclanman]

Nice TE Rockman0
I have a very worn out TE Barlow like that somewhere- don’t think from memory that it had the Sheepsfoot secondary Blade though?
Charlie- That Case has beautiful Bone, I agree, Case crammed a lot of Steel into a small package there!- aaaahhh the days when Case was right up there!

Long Blade- My friend- you hit the nail on the Head with that Pen!!! what a gorgeous Knife!! I just took some photos of some of my Pen Knives the other day, so I will post 'em up possibly tomorrow!

 

[LongBlade]

Paul, Mike, Smiling-Knife, Old Bowie and Duncan - Thanks so much for the nice comments my friends .... much appreciated and great to see other folks appreciate the old pen knives too !!