Old Scool VS. New School, old school wins??

roughedges said:
its the ltc khukri, the 5/16th version.

my buddy has the machete version. It is a much better tool and lasted a lot longer than the ltc I broke. and at something like 25% of the price.
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interesting that the thiner model is better. Are they both made of Carbon V or is the machete version made of 1050, which is much tougher?? I wonder?
 
afaik, CS calls the steel in the machetes medium carbon which I imagine is 1050. The Carbon V on mine held an edge better but was obviously way too brittle for this kind of tool.

I was impressed with the cold steel machetes. In fact, they and their other inexpensive medium carbon knives are the only ones that I would consider buying.


Sorry all, for the thread drift.
 
roughedges said:
afaik, CS calls the steel in the machetes medium carbon which I imagine is 1050. The Carbon V on mine held an edge better but was obviously way too brittle for this kind of tool.

I was impressed with the cold steel machetes. In fact, they and their other inexpensive medium carbon knives are the only ones that I would consider buying.


Sorry all, for the thread drift.
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thanks, that is what I figured. 1050 is a solid steel and it is hard to screw up the HT on it.
 
gunknifenut said:
it did fine, it took a lot longer to go through the tree than the others, but I think that the lighter weight, make s it a sure thing lin the woods. As a matter of fact, the edge was till pretty sharp after the test.
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Good to know. I think even though RAT-7s are not on the level of the Scrapyard Busses and Swamprats (although i've never used any of them). I think for under 100 bucks its one hell of a beater.!:D
 
All I've got to say is "now that's a warranty" - you can't ask for more than that. Anybody can be good at customer service when they are selling a product. The true test is how they handle it when something goes wrong :cool:
 
I saw this knife at Gene's house last night & I too thought that it may have been an air pocket in the steel that caused this defect. I know alot of folks were initially dumbfounded by the bizarre nature of this, but I have personally seen the knife & tree that was used in his test. Gene wasn't bullsh*ttin', he was trying to test out his new toy, it did out chop the rest, but it still had a major defect. I'm glad Scrapyard is going to rectify this. This test isn't going to prevent me from a SWKW purchase in the future.......:thumbup:
 
pittsteele said:
ouch, thanks for the input/review. maybe now the secondary market will re-adjust.
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keep on dreamin. One minor issue not even worth mentioning won't change that. Scrapyards SR77 knives will still kick the shizle out of anything within $150 of their price range. :D But nice try:rolleyes:
 
Cobalt said:
Scrapyards SR77 knives will still kick the shizle out of anything within $150 of their price range. :D But nice try:rolleyes:
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"The Cold Steel was actually my best performer....but the Dog Father failure cost the new guys the game."

apparently not - i'm not bashing or promoting, just observing :D
 
Weird looking failure. Looks almost like a pressure flake in flint. I guess it goes to show - test your gear thoroughly before you really need it. I

Thanks for the pics and review.
 
pittsteele said:
apparently not - i'm not bashing or promoting, just observing :D
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couch it any way you but the big grin smily says it all:jerkit:

too bad you will still pay way over retail and make no mistake about it a slight edge damage is better than the severe fractures so common with Cold Steel like the PICTURES NOTED ABOVE
 
Dan Busse said:
Please do not condemn the entire Scrap Yard line. Your knife is covered by our warranty. No questions asked.
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I own no knives from any of the Busse companies, but I would have this to say: statistically, it CAN happen. A company can't have 100% of their product perfect, that is a limit we have to accept and that's why warranty exist.

One wise thing (in a lot) that Uncle Bill from HI said is you should always test your blade before getting them in the field. (something like that, but the idea is there).

So don't worry that, what is stopping me from getting one of your blades is not accidents like this but the fact I'm poor at the moment :)

Cobalt said:
Radiused transitions on the Busses family knives and square transition on the COLD STEEL

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mmm, in your FIRST engineering class, you learn NOT to do that (squared transitions). It puts much more stress on the material than a round transition. That is much more a reason not to buy Cold Steel.
 
Wow. I have 2 CS kukris, LTC (3/16") and the thicker Gurkha (5/16"). I have used the LTC for years chopping on my property with only one small nick where I accidentally hit a nail. I'm a big strong guy, so there is a lot of force behind my chops. Got a new Dog Father. After seeing this, I'm glad I did. That chip in the DF is bad, but not as bad as the total failure in Cobalt's CS kukri pics. Besides, Dan will make it right. I will never baton with the CS, now. I put my Dog Father through some tough tests on really hard liveoak, chopping and splitting. All it did was get dirty.
No failures of any kind. BTW: Is that pic really you, Cobalt? Really hot.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I got rid of all my Cold Steel choppers and bought Swamps and Scrap Yards this year since the Carbon V steel shortage made everyone think they were worth so much money. I never had any trouble with the steel or chopping with my old Trailmaster but when the Kraton handle started moving I talked to some friends with Battle Rats and made the change. I have not had a chance to test them yet though. Interersting to see those dramatic CS failure photos I have never heard of anything like that before.
 
Horn Dog said:
Wow. I have 2 CS kukris, LTC (3/16") and the thicker Gurkha (5/16"). I have used the LTC for years chopping on my property with only one small nick where I accidentally hit a nail. I'm a big strong guy, so there is a lot of force behind my chops. Got a new Dog Father. After seeing this, I'm glad I did. That chip in the DF is bad, but not as bad as the total failure in Cobalt's CS kukri pics. Besides, Dan will make it right. I will never baton with the CS, now. I put my Dog Father through some tough tests on really hard liveoak, chopping and splitting. All it did was get dirty.
No failures of any kind. BTW: Is that pic really you, Cobalt? Really hot.
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No, someone else posted that picture earlier in this thread or another thread like it recently. I have never owned a CS Khukuri even though I was tempted on getting one, but why would I when HI khukuris are thicker and made of better steel
 
Cobalt said:
too bad you will still pay way over retail and make no mistake about it a slight edge damage is better than the severe fractures so common with Cold Steel like the PICTURES NOTED ABOVE
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your misdirection indicates where you loyalty lies and i can respect that, sort of. but i'm not worried about paying 'way over retail'...i won't be spending a dime...thanks though! :D :D :D
 
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