Old Timer

[SOUTHERN WOODS]

Which model is the largest? 34OT or 18OT?

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

Which model is the largest? 34OT or 18OT?

Of those two, the 34OT is bigger. The 18OT is a tiny one ('Mighty Mite' single blade, liner lock), on the same frame as the 108OT 'Junior' stockman (2-3/4" closed).


David

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

David yours is an older one... late 70's or early 80's. The Schrade NY USA stamp followed the Schrade Walden NY USA stamp for 10 years or so. It would probably have been one that came in the larger two piece brown boxes with a white sleeve. There are a few stamped like that with a matchstrike nail nick too. (...)

Thank you, yes mine did come in the older two-piece brown box w/papers, and was listed by the seller as likely late '70s. It was essentially 'as new' when I bought it a few years ago, and I think it may've been among the best purchases I've made on a knife. Never regretted it. Would've loved to have one with the matchstrike pull too; maybe that'll happen down the road sometime...


David

 

[Bob W]

Here's a comparison picture showing the Old Timer stockman sizes.

From top to bottom:
108OT
34OT
8OT
61OT
858OT

There's also the Ulster 58OT pattern that would probably fit between the 108 and 34.
There are many variations on these basic sizes too. The 34OT is the same frame as the 33OT, 36OT, etc. The 8OT is the same frame as the 89OT, etc.

 

[yablanowitz]

Won in a give away from yablanowitz. Thanks jack.

Good to see it out of the package and getting some love.

 

[thawk]

Another line up

 

[Campbellclanman]

Wow, that IS a line up Hal, beautiful conditioned knives there!

 

[Woodrow F Call]

What's the scoop on the green ones?

 

[ASBOB]

Personally my favorite Schrade is the 194OT.

But that black one is beyong gorgeous. Simply knock down beauty. Congratulations!

Anybody know anything more about them? What styles did they make them in?

 

[Bob W]

What's the scoop on the green ones?

Who knows.

This may have been a test or demonstration of their advertising capabilities, "We can print your company's logo like this."

Some Old Timers were green, other models were always made with brass bolsters. But the 36OT never had either. Until now:

Anybody know anything more about them? What styles did they make them in?

That black knife is not a normal production item, as far as I can tell. But I have seen other Old Timers in black delrin from time to time. Most commonly, the Grand Dad's Old Timer series was black. But Campbellclanman's knife isn't one of those.

I think the Limited Edition Old Timer in the tractor set was black too. That's not one of those either.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Hi guys, thank you for the nice comments on that Black Beauty, I think that knife is just superb in every way, now I personally don't know too much, I am sure Hal could shed some light on this, now I bought these two knives shown below together - Mint and if I remember right from the seller information - (whom is always bang on), that these two knives were made at the same time late 60's, the Buck was also made by Schrade at that time.



As much as I like the more expensive knives, I also like the Old Timer just as much, I saw it mentioned before that someone liked the 194OT - and I was hooked on mine for a long time-great knife.

The photo below shows the Schrade made BUCK, and the Old timer with two craftsmen, these are heavily suspected to be Schrade made - I thought Camillus made the two Craftsmen, this opinion was shared by quite a few knowledgeable folks around here...



A few more photos of Old Timers, gees these knives were made great...

 

[neilrazer]

The 340T I bought new years ago has been my EDC again lately. I just keep coming back to it. The carbon steel blades get so sharp so easily. I've tried a couple newer Schrades (non-USA) and they definitely are not in the same class as the older ones.

 

[thawk]

I've looked at 1000's of Old Timers. I've never seen one exactly like this particular example. Not only does it have a brass shield, but also has the razor finished blades (like the 1960's Razor Blade Series). I suspect the blades might be stainless steel too, but there is no designation on them. No 8OT marking either. Duncan has a shot of the back of the master blade that shows this well. It comes from a time when Schrade still performed the hand finished swedges. They did well on this one. It is a very interesting piece.


You can see the factory razor finished blades here.

During the 1960's, Schrade made this pattern with a similar brass shield for Sears Craftsman as well as Buck (nickel silver shield with the same size and shape). The Craftsman examples had brass bolsters and black Delrin handles. The matchstriker nail nick also puts it into an earlier time frame.

 

[J Buck]

Man! Nice collection guy's. The OT's are one of my favorites these days. My dad always had an Old Timer in his pocket, so that must be my connection with them. I have an 80T and 34OT, but nothing near as nice as some of these in the collections. They are workin' knives though, so no foul. That 1095 steel.....Scary sharp! Please excuse me now while I go feed my addiction and go swimming in the bay.......

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

I'm trying to avoid going a little 'OT' (off-topic) here, by also including my 'OT' of the more pertinent variety...

Last summer, we captured this li'l critter at our neighbor's house late one night, and set it free it in our yard the next morning. Our neighbor was a little intimidated with it standing sentry near her patio doors, and she didn't want her dogs to get ahold of it. So there came a late night phone call, and we went on a bug-retrieval safari, with big stainless tweezers and capture-jar. The bug is essentially harmless, though it can pinch; it's called a 'Vinegaroon'. Related to scorpions, but with no 'stinger'. It defends itself by spraying a 'mist' of acetic acid at those who may choose to mess with it, from it's back end. The acetic acid in it's spray is the same stuff lending it's scent to vinegar, hence the name.

My 8OT was riding pocket-duty that day, as usual, and it got volunteered to add some scale for size, in the pics:


David

 

[thawk]

Nice critter! :thumbup:

 

[rune1279]

Another line up

Just out of curiosity, but on that big barehead trapper (3rd from the right) what is that unusual brass fixture next to the pin?

Thanks,
--Mark

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

Just out of curiosity, but on that big barehead trapper (3rd from the right) what is that unusual brass fixture next to the pin?

Thanks,
--Mark

That model comes with a pin/scribe and tweezers, inserted into recesses in the end of each handle slab, much like the tweezers on a SAK. The brass seen is the tooled head on the pin/scribe, I believe. Here's a vendor pic of the recent Taylor Brands version:

David

 

[rune1279]

That model comes with a pin/scribe and tweezers, inserted into recesses in the end of each handle slab, much like the tweezers on a SAK. The brass seen is the tooled head on the pin/scribe, I believe.

Hm. I always wondered about this -- ask and ye shall receive. Thanks!

--Mark

 

[knarfeng]

It defends itself by spraying a 'mist' of acetic acid at those who may choose to mess with it, from it's back end. The acetic acid in it's spray is the same stuff lending it's scent to vinegar, hence the name.

My 8OT was riding pocket-duty that day, as usual, and it got volunteered to add some scale for size, in the pics:
David

OOOOOHHH! New way to get a patina!