Oleg Krymlin - BAD EXPERIENCE

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Oleg Krymlin said:
He received his money back. Just do not say this.
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ruthless750 said:
I'd like all member on this board to know that the funds were not returned to me by mr. Krymlin rather my own CC company after I had to file a complaint and start investigation
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These two statements together speak for themselves.

Now the big question: To the current members who had problems with Mr Krymlin, will there be ITRADER feedback reflecting this mess, so that others can be aware of / avoid this type of problem?

(Edit: My question is really directed to everyone, I have seen many trainwrecks in GBU, but when you look at a feedback for the offenders, in many cases you would never know it)
 
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Oleg Krymlin said:
ruthless 750:But now the money back to you, right? I lost 5 packages (8 knives) for 2 months.It was a very bad two months.
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Oleg.
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My knowledge on statistics comes into play here, just for the rest of the members to ponder.

A probability of an independent evens occuring in sequence. Oleg states 5 packages lost in two months, each package we will assign a letter: A, B, C, D, E = 5 packages

P ( A and B and C and D and E ) all 5 are independent and probability of all occuring is simply multiplying their each probabilities. According to Data the upper bounds ( which is a higher estimate) for the USPS is about 1.2% per package

1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% = You have a higher probability of preselecting 5 cards out of the deck and pulling them out in sequence (52 cards in the deck)
 
ruthless750 said:
My knowledge on statistics comes into play here, just for the rest of the members to ponder.

A probability of an independent evens occuring in sequence. Oleg states 5 packages lost in two months, each package we will assign a letter: A, B, C, D, E = 5 packages

P ( A and B and C and D and E ) all 5 are independent and probability of all occuring is simply multiplying their each probabilities. According to Data the upper bounds ( which is a higher estimate) for the USPS is about 1.2% per package

1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% = You have a higher probability of preselecting 5 cards out of the deck and pulling them out in sequence (52 cards in the deck)
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LOL, this is somewhat funny! While I appreciate the effort to provide an alternative perspective on the likelihood that OK "lost" five packages in two months, you assume that they were all given to USPS and the USPS lost them. In my experience, however, I have often found truth to be stranger than fiction. In other words, life is sometimes filled with "stupid stuff" (sorry about the technical term here :rolleyes:) that is so ridiculous, most people would have a hard time imagining/believing it. Ever watch the idiotic Jerry Springer show??? IDK, maybe a packrat stole them.

Look, I'm not saying OK is lying or telling the truth. I'm asking, "Who cares?" It's the end result that is most important. Does his customer get their knife or do they get their $ back or do they get neither? You know what they say about excuses? Friends don't care and enemies don't believe them.
 
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ruthless750 said:
My knowledge on statistics comes into play here, just for the rest of the members to ponder.

A probability of an independent evens occuring in sequence. Oleg states 5 packages lost in two months, each package we will assign a letter: A, B, C, D, E = 5 packages

P ( A and B and C and D and E ) all 5 are independent and probability of all occuring is simply multiplying their each probabilities. According to Data the upper bounds ( which is a higher estimate) for the USPS is about 1.2% per package

1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% = You have a higher probability of preselecting 5 cards out of the deck and pulling them out in sequence (52 cards in the deck)
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This could be the best post EVER
 
I truly hope Oleg gets his act together. It seams that every talented new knife maker that I like goes to the dark side.
 
Since the end result was adequate Neutral Feedback would be appropriate. I hope he gets it together and we don't see him here for this again.


For your statistics- meaningless with out taking in all the unknown variables- It's the Post Office after all.

Here's one for your statistics. I've shipped >500 packages all over the World- really all over the world. Macau was one of the more interesting places. Guess which package the Post Office Lost? The one shipped the shortest distance ever- across town less than 17 miles away. I didn't feel like driving through traffic so I just mailed it insured etc. and they lost it. A signature was required for the insurance value and they still lost it. Mind boggling but true.

Mitch
 
braillediver said:
Since the end result was adequate Neutral Feedback would be appropriate. I hope he gets it together and we don't see him here for this again.
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Are you talking about Ruthless' result? I.e., you're saying neutral feedback should be left for having to get the credit card company to get the money back because O.K. wouldn't?

Suppose someone accidentally broke your car window when it was parked on the street. They won't pay for it, so you take them to court, and through that you get reimbursed. Would you view them neutrally since in the end you got that money back or poorly because you had to bring in that third party to get your money because they wouldn't reimburse you without being forced?

If anyone sells me a knife, it goes missing (or perhaps isn't sent at all), and I have to get Paypal or my cc company to get my money back, they're getting negative feedback whether I get my money back or not.
 
What bothers me the most about all this is.. What people have to do to get made whole. Having to hold his feet to the fire to get him to do what is right.

The GBU is filled with this crap. What it comes down to is people taking money for goods and services and then blowing the customer off. Being flat out to lazy
to send a email or make a phone call to say it may take a bit longer but I have not forgot you. That goes a long way with people. The BS excuses it goes
on and on.. The stuff these type of people make up to cover their ass is laughable.

No way neutral feedback gotta be a black strike for this.
 
kreole said:
Are you talking about Ruthless' result? I.e., you're saying neutral feedback should be left for having to get the credit card company to get the money back because O.K. wouldn't?

Suppose someone accidentally broke your car window when it was parked on the street. They won't pay for it, so you take them to court, and through that you get reimbursed. Would you view them neutrally since in the end you got that money back or poorly because you had to bring in that third party to get your money because they wouldn't reimburse you without being forced?

If anyone sells me a knife, it goes missing (or perhaps isn't sent at all), and I have to get Paypal or my cc company to get my money back, they're getting negative feedback whether I get my money back or not.
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I completely agree with you. Because people don't rate fairly we have incidents like this happen, as the current ratings are not at times ( this time) a true representation of "services" to come.
 
Okay, guys. Choose any to whom you trust, and I tell him what happened. He will be able to verify this. Then he will say all right if I did everything. I think it should be ruthless750-the one who opened this thread.
 
Oleg Krymlin said:
Okay, guys. Choose any to whom you trust, and I tell him what happened. He will be able to verify this. Then he will say all right if I did everything. I think it should be ruthless750-the one who opened this thread.
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That seems to be a rather round-about way of doing things.
 
Oleg Krymlin said:
Okay, guys. Choose any to whom you trust, and I tell him what happened. He will be able to verify this. Then he will say all right if I did everything. I think it should be ruthless750-the one who opened this thread.
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Reagrdless of what your situation is or was, clear and frequent communication would have probably avoided all of this. You can have the best knives in the world but your honesty and integrity as a man is what will earn the respect of your customers. I can personally say that I've been very eager to get one your knives, but after this whole ordeal I don't think I could ever purchase one.
 
ruthless750 said:
My knowledge on statistics comes into play here, just for the rest of the members to ponder.

A probability of an independent evens occuring in sequence. Oleg states 5 packages lost in two months, each package we will assign a letter: A, B, C, D, E = 5 packages

P ( A and B and C and D and E ) all 5 are independent and probability of all occuring is simply multiplying their each probabilities. According to Data the upper bounds ( which is a higher estimate) for the USPS is about 1.2% per package

1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% x 1.2% = You have a higher probability of preselecting 5 cards out of the deck and pulling them out in sequence (52 cards in the deck)
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Yup, silly. Oleg never said the post office lost the knives. Maybe he said yous did. Bad things happen and he seems sorry and has taken responsibility. I hope this can all go away now and all have learned from it. Oleg does make some sweet stuff and someday I would like to own one of his creations. :thumbup:
 
I do not want any more excuses. Want to buy my knives- buy it. No-do not buy.I've been doing and will do knives because I like it.
 
Oleg Krymlin said:
I do not want any more excuses. Want to buy my knives- buy it. No-do not buy.I've been doing and will do knives because I like it.
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All you had were excuses, I have facts.

To your point RUNIT, Oleg hasn't communicated with me outside of this thread since June 12th

Joewest69 is right, and I'm with you, as I judge the man by his Actions and that's what make you a man. And trust me when I sell things, I don't say "if you want to buy then buy, and if not, then don't" I value everyone's business and their time and money.
 
I had a similar situation recently. Great communication up to the time I paid for the knife and then nothing. I eventually did get my knife after several emails and about double the time he said it would take originally.
 
For those that have a good knife maker that they've used please send me a note as I would like to have the knife made.
 
Oleg - it shouldn't even get to five lost packages in two months, bad stretch or not. Reexamine your shipping process, use a different carrier, do something before it comes to that level. One or two flukes may happen but beyond that you've go to take the bull by the horns and figure out a better way. Would you feel good about ordering supplies for your business from someone who lost five items in two months?
 
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