On makers still using proprietary pivots.

[AntDog]

I like to at bare minimum be able to tune the pivot to my liking. The proprietary pivot BS has kept me from pulling the trigger on a few knives I liked otherwise.

All the other screws don’t bother me too much because I rarely take my knives apart, but it would be goofy as hell to have a universal pivot and proprietary body screws.

 

[DocJD]

It’s 2020, why can’t everyone just get on board and make a pivot hole I can stick my wiha in. I really like some of the designs, but those funky pivots are a dealbreaker.

I don't like them either , but some people obviously do !

Obvious solution : buy knives with features you like , avoid those with annoying aspects .

Plenty of great brands out there with standard hardware . Lucky for me Cold Steel is one of them .

 

[soc_monki]

I respectfully disagree. I think even Torx is "too much". The vast majority of people only own flatheads/Phillips.

I respect Shirogorov because I can use fingernails or coins to adjust the screws if need be. I never understood knife companies who market to LEO, outdoors-men, operators, etc and demand drivers that are specialized. Even as a trades guy, I won't have a T6 and T9 on demand but I damn sure have a dime lying in my cupholder.

Torx is better because more surface area means less chance of camming out, which is why slotted screws suck and I have no idea why they continue to use them in any field but especially electrical. Robertson are far superior to flat or Philips.

Sad fact is that people still strip them because they've got ham hands. Small screws and lots of torque don't mix regardless of the drive type.

 

[Quapukulu]

Torx is better because more surface area means less chance of camming out, which is why slotted screws suck and I have no idea why they continue to use them in any field but especially electrical. Robertson are far superior to flat or Philips.

Sad fact is that people still strip them because they've got ham hands. Small screws and lots of torque don't mix regardless of the drive type.

Yep. I'm sure the forementioned have their advantages and are probably "better". I'm saying the others (flatheads/Phillips) are far more egalitarian. If I'm walking to a customer house already with 80 lb of tools, I probably have flathead/Phillips/Allen at most.

I am also guilty of stripping many screws too. I'm lucky Sal and Spyderco are generous enough to send me screws once in a while.