On Scammers and Avoiding Being Scammed

So if we are pushing goods and services. Wouldn’t it stand to reason to not allow FF in sales adds?
 
hhmoore said:
@Blues much of what I was saying was intended far more generically than it came across. I have already reached out to jazub in that regard.
I have been through the waves of this form of scam before, and it frustrates me that buyers and sellers continue to enable it long after they are aware of the dangers. Jazub didn't do anything I haven't seen multiple others here do; he just happened to be involved in the one that triggered my response. (My apologies, again, @jazub).

Buyers - particularly registered members that are the easiest target of this scam; but I mean all buyers - you need to smarten up. The need for you to post your email is not likely to go away anytime soon (since most sellers are choosing not to post theirs). That doesn't mean you have to be an easy mark. Delete your email ASAP after confirming that you have been contacted by the seller. Do not send payment until you have confirmed that it was actually the seller - there are numerous ways to do that (ideally, the seller will make it easy). Don't be so free about giving your money away to people you don't know. That's what PayPal Friends and Family is, after all - a way to give money. Lastly, SLOW DOWN. It's only a knife. Sure, maybe it's THE KNIFE - the one you've wanted for-e-ver...but how much worse will it be when you find out that, in your haste to score, you sent your money to a scammer so now you don't have the knife or your money?

Sellers - be mindful of the current situation. If you are unwilling to post your contact information, how do you justify requiring others to do so? I'm not suggesting refusing to sell to registered members...but if that's the course you choose, lock your ad so they aren't trying to stake their claim. If you are requiring their email, include something when you contact them that will make it easy to confirm that you are, in fact, the seller - a code word that you subsequently post in the ad, for example (don't use the same one over and over again). Then, once you are in communication, remind them to delete their email. No, you aren't responsible for them; but you can/should try to be part of the solution

I have long been a bug about keeping buying/selling private. I don't post I'll take in threads (yes, I've lost purchases as a result, when sellers insist on it for whatever reason) and I only use private communications when I am selling. Those practices can eliminate this particular scam. (Unfortunately, they do open the door to others.).
I have also long been against PP F&F and had a negative view of sellers that requested that for payment (that, like private communication for sales stemmed from a prior hobby). With the mass shift to F&F over the tax implications, I have had to curb that attitude a bit; but I had already closed my PayPal accounts so it's easier to ignore.
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Heres how I dealt with it on my last sale, and how I will on all future sales I may have.


I will not sell to non-paying members-However I will deduct/refund the 10 dollars a basic membership costs from the purchase price if you pm me a receipt showing you signed up to buy this knife. As it may take a day or two to get your new membership active, post here your Ill take it and when you bought the membership and Ill hold the knife until conformation is provided, then you can pay and Ill ship it out.
 
Kettleman said:
Heres how I dealt with it on my last sale, and how I will on all future sales I may have.


I will not sell to non-paying members-However I will deduct/refund the 10 dollars a basic membership costs from the purchase price if you pm me a receipt showing you signed up to buy this knife. As it may take a day or two to get your new membership active, post here your Ill take it and when you bought the membership and Ill hold the knife until conformation is provided, then you can pay and Ill ship it out.
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Nice! :thumbsup:
 
Just had another great buying experience on here. Don’t let yourself be scammed. Still lots of good people here.
 
Kettleman said:
Heres how I dealt with it on my last sale, and how I will on all future sales I may have.


I will not sell to non-paying members-However I will deduct/refund the 10 dollars a basic membership costs from the purchase price if you pm me a receipt showing you signed up to buy this knife. As it may take a day or two to get your new membership active, post here your Ill take it and when you bought the membership and Ill hold the knife until conformation is provided, then you can pay and Ill ship it out.
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That’s pretty damn sweet. And smart.👊
 
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