One knife only

cziv said:
I hear ya, everyone's been buzzing about them. I photographed 2 large Grips yesterday that I've never used except to flick 'em open and check them out. A Blue Class Pardue and a Black Box RSK MK1. 154CM & S30V respectively.

I couldn't bring myself to post & try to sell the darn things - tossed my camera bag in the drawer, in disgust over my attachment to the darn things! :rolleyes:

I can't recall the member - I think it's the one with the teddy bear avatar, (a good guy) claims he can baton wood with them and beat BLUNTTRUTH's 5 minute time in cutting the 3"x4" pice of lumber using a Griptilian and not an Izula. Maybe they'll save my live some day....:D
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I know we are going of topic but I can remember something similar. Someone was using their Busse to through into a tree at about 20 feet and the guy used a 550HG grip as well. Thing was still working and it was bouncing off the tree etc. A true testament to the knives. But for the love of me I cant remember where it was (what forum) or who was the poster so I have been searching in fain.
 
knifenut1013 said:
Mainly the steel and the blade grind, some may also say the lock. S30V is not nearly as tough as VG-10 in the real world and the thick saber ground blade would be stronger than the hollow ground blade of the seb. Now if your just talking about purely cutting then yes the S30V is better. Like I said I got nothing against the seb, its a finely crafted piece like a swiss watch but what is it going to do that a millie or Ti sage can't, besides look good? A daily carry knife is for performance first and looks second IMO and IMO a seb is a special occasion carry knife because it is so nice. I think of it like most would think of a really nice car, keep it covered and put away until a nice day :)


And to the OP, good luck with trying to have just one knife ;)
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Not flaming, but are you saying a saber ground Endura in VG-10 is stronger than a Strider?
 
Well, the Griptilian has to be in the "just one knife only" category then.

The Griptilian Gold Class CF M4 steel is coming in at $340! Looks like his knife :D

IMHO VG10 is harder to sharpen than S30V, my knives anyway. "Gotta be the heat treat" :D
 
Cold Steel Recon-1 Tanto It's been my EDC for 8! years becasue it's so damn tough! It has the Axis lock that I love, partial serrated(I wore most of the teeth out years ago:D), pocket clip placements are adjustable, easy to sharpen and stays sharp a looong time.. It's a big, tough, ugly knife that you can use like a crowbar or a razor and everything in between, and it comes out shining!!!! Indestructable.
 
Reeper22 said:
Not flaming, but are you saying a saber ground Endura in VG-10 is stronger than a Strider?
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Where in his post do you see the word Strider?



cziv said:
Well, the Griptilian has to be in the "just one knife only" category then.

The Griptilian Gold Class CF M4 steel is coming in at $340! Looks like his knife :D

IMHO VG10 is harder to sharpen than S30V, my knives anyway. "Gotta be the heat treat" :D
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That gold class Grip can be had for about $250 FYI.
 
That gold class Grip can be had for about $250 FYI.
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I was looking at BladeHQ maybe if you call in it can be had for less? They claim to match any price. I'm not buying one so what the heck, it's pretty though.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Where in his post do you see the word Strider?
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He said that the Endura would be sturdier than a Sebenza because of the steel and grind. By the same logic, the Endura would be sturdier than a Strider because the Strider has the same materials as the Sebenza. He seemed to neglect robustness of the design along with build quality and tolerances.

I don't want to start a war of the blades, but in my opinion, the overall build of a Sebenza is much sturdier than a Endura and could stand more abuse as a whole (looking to more than just the edge of the blade).
 
Reeper22 said:
He said that the Endura would be sturdier than a Sebenza because of the steel and grind. By the same logic, the Endura would be sturdier than a Strider because the Strider has the same materials as the Sebenza. He seemed to neglect robustness of the design along with build quality and tolerances.

I don't want to start a war of the blades, but in my opinion, the overall build of a Sebenza is much sturdier than a Endura and could stand more abuse as a whole (looking to more than just the edge of the blade).
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I still don't get where you are getting Strider from when he was talking about a Sebenza. There are lots of Ti framelocks with S30V blades and they are all different. He was making a comparison with the Sebenza and to extend it to a Strider is putting words in his mouth. Does a Strider have the same grind as a Sebenza? Does a strider have the same blade thickness of a Sebenza?

He gave his reasons why he thought the Endura was stronger than a Sebenza. Tolerances and build quality don't really have anything to do with strength. He stated why he thinks it is stronger and until someone does some extensive testing you can disagree and have a different opinion but we don't know if his reasoning would hold true or not. He has more reasons why an Endura would be stronger than a Sebenza than the other way around.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
I still don't get where you are getting Strider from when he was talking about a Sebenza. There are lots of Ti framelocks with S30V blades and they are all different. He was making a comparison with the Sebenza and to extend it to a Strider is putting words in his mouth. Does a Strider have the same grind as a Sebenza? Does a strider have the same blade thickness of a Sebenza?

He gave his reasons why he thought the Endura was stronger than a Sebenza. Tolerances and build quality don't really have anything to do with strength. He stated why he thinks it is stronger and until someone does some extensive testing you can disagree and have a different opinion but we don't know if his reasoning would hold true or not. He has more reasons why an Endura would be stronger than a Sebenza than the other way around.
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I didn't put words in his mouth. I asked him he thought an Endura is stronger than a Strider. I do think a Strider and Sebenza and very comparable, hence all the comparisons. The Strider and Sebenza are not the same in every way but similar enough to make a small leap in logically reasoning. I was offering the opportunity for him to either say yes, an Endura is stronger than a Strider, or no a Strider is more robust and its grind changes things.

I disagree with your statement that build quality and tolerances do not correlate to strength and sturdiness with respect to the overall sturdiness of the knife. Unless you are only making reference to the blade itself apart from the knife, how well made something is affects how sturdy it is. A blade without a handle doesn't do you much good.

I believe it was knifenut I quoted and I like him and respect his opinions. If that's what he thinks, that's fine. I would love for someone to do some testing: Endura vs Sebenza. I just won't offer mine.
 
Reeper22 said:
I believe it was knifenut I quoted and I like him and respect his opinions. If that's what he thinks, that's fine. I would love for someone to do some testing: Endura vs Sebenza. I just won't offer mine.
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I have these knives, well a few of these knives and I am sure the Endura would break before my Sebenzas. I also respect knifenut a great deal, but I feel he his very wrong here.

It's funny how people think that because they will not "use" a $350-$900 knife that other people do not also. I can promise I use the crap out of my higher end knives. Sure I don't baton with my Large Damascus Sebenza, but I sure will cut a cardboard box up for the recycling or any other task that presents it's self. I think most people who own the "higher" end stuff are the same way. I'm not talking about the guy who has ONE sebenza or ONE strider, I'm talking about the guys that have five, ten, ect... higher ends and are are used to owning "high end" knives. They probably have a few $500-$1000 "users."

Not saying the Endura is crap, in fact it's one of the best Spydercos ever made IMHO. Just no where near a sebenza... and I don think Sal designed it to be a "sebenza." :)
 
knifenut1013 said:
Tough knife? I'd put money on a saber ground endura being tougher than a seb and a 1/4 the price. Not hating the seb but its more of a looker than a user.

A knife does not need to cost a lot to be tough it just needs the right design.
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Have you ever owned a Sebenza, if yes did you "use" it?

When I see posts like this it just makes me think the poster has never felt how "tank like" a sebenza truly is. Pictures don't do the Sebenza any good, it's the in hand feeling that let's you know it's all business... No fluff, just a nice refined tank. IMHO
 
You guys have no originality. Just a bunch of sheep. Jumpin' on the band wagon. As for me, I'm goin' with . . . a Sebenza. :)
 
I'll send a saber ground Endura to NOSS and one of you come up with a Sebenza and let's have him test them. Proof is in the putting. ;)

Has anyone seen how the Chris Reeve Green Beret S30V fared?

I'm being sarcastic of course :D - Hey whatever floats your boat! I wrote eariler that "one knife only" is the "Grail" - nobody can find it.
 
+1 on the sebenza, if that is your budget and you are really looking for just *one* knife, you can't go wrong with the sebenza. The small 21st anniversary one is great, and if you are considering being in a "posh" environment like you said I would definitely choose a small seb over a large one, I believe the sizes are about 2.9 and 3.6, respectively.

I have a lot of respect for the Strider blades though too, however I do not own one. I'd take a look at em also
 
My current "One knife only" is a Cold Steel Black Rhino. It does everything I want a knife to do, and it was bought for an extremely reasonable price, $64.99.

I have a bunch of others, but this is the one I am currently EDCing. It is a nice size, a nice weight, and has an extremely stout locking mechanism.

I suppose, since I also carry a Leatherman Charge, that that is also a knife of sorts?:confused:
 
The Cold Steel Demko Triad Lock folders (such as the Black Rhino and others) are among the strongest locks locks out there and may be the best buys.

That said I have never seen a better constructed frame lock than a Sebenza (STR's conversions come very close.) Simple and done right with zero blade play and faultless mating of the lock bar to the blade as far as I can tell. I like the the fact that Sebenzas don't have nearly as much of an angle on the blade lockup surface as others.

As far as Nosses destructive tests of the large fixed blades go, on a knife as small as a Sebenza let alone a folder I don't see it as much of an issue.
 
Not that I think it will be a issue for you but make sure that whatever you end up with that you arent afraid to use it. Nothing worse than a man with a kick ass blade he is afriad to use or avoids using.
 
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