Ontario Rat-1 owners question for you.

AusieGav

AusieGav

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I want to get one or 2 of these into Australia and our laws are a bit odd when it comes to what constitutes a flick knife.
My question is will this knife open with centrifugal force or gravity (ie can you flick it open in any way without using the thumb stud as it comes from the factory) or do you have to use the thumb stud to open the blade?

Cheers
 
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of course you'll have to use the thumb to open the blade, and I dont think that it's a gravity knife, you can't open it with only wrist action...at least when it comes from factory.
use your thumb, create some tension on it and it can fly out
 
The RAT-1 has a strong detent, which makes the thumb-studs all-the-more effective. There's no way I could shake the blade loose from mine. I think you'll be fine. :thumbup:
 
timberweasel said:
The RAT-1 has a strong detent, which makes the thumb-studs all-the-more effective. There's no way I could shake the blade loose from mine. I think you'll be fine. :thumbup:
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Same here and that's been on about 10 different examples I have seen.
 
As others have mentioned, you should be fine. If you want to be extra cautious, you could ask the seller to tighten the pivot screw down a bit to make it hard to open even with the thumb stud.
 
AusieGav said:
Thanks for all your responses - sounds like it will be OK.

Cheers
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No doubt. I have been using mine hard on the job for about a year and a half, and it still locks up tight and can't be shaken or flipped open without hitting the thumbstud unless you manually grab the blade. No quick deployment for this one. (none needed for me!)

Robert
 
As difficult to defeat as the detent is (on the one I owned, it was so hard to open, I got rid of it), I don't think anyone will confuse it with a gravity knife.
 
I can flick mine open if i hold it in a reverse grip and flick. But it takes a very vigorous wrist flick to do it.
Ask the seller to tighten the pivot screw for you before shipping.
I'm in Canada and i've heard of customs seizing flippers and AO knives even though they are perfectly legal.
Luckily we have two excellent Canadian online knife sellers with good prices here (one in BC and one in Ont.). I've bought all my flippers and AO knives in Canada to avoid any troubles.
I hope your knife gets to you without any hassles!
 
Just sat here and tried one of mine, couldn't even get the blade to move at all without using the thumbstud.
 
As stated , ask the seller to tighten up the action or even remove the thumbstud - Ive heard customs will treat ANY folder thats openable with one hand as a 'flick knife' which is a pretty vague term.
 
Customs has told me via email that the Rat-1 IS a flick knife and cannot be imported - so I guess I will have to pay an Australian retailer of the Rat-1 an inflated price to get one.
 
Wow, u had to ask customs for guidance. Better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission. That's ok my country is headed the same way so fast and the people don't even know what's being done to them.

I've heard in Canada the procedure is to grab the knife by the spine of the blade and while holding on as tight as possible they flick it or snap their wrist as hard as they can. If it opens fully then it is denied. From what I have been told that any knife thR has enough exposed blade to grab fails the test.

The bottom line is the ruling class elites don't want you to have because they think it is unnecessary for u to have it and that it is also a deadly weapon. So learn to carry a pair of safet or rounded tip scissors. That's where this is all headed anyway.
 
I was kind of forced to ask because the definition on the books says one thing but the definition being implemented is different and the Customs service will not tell us what that definition is.
 
Just letting people know in new york. My brother was fooling around near someone's place and was arrested for trespassing. I gave him a RAT-1 which he carries as an EDC, and this knife was taken away from him because the police considered it a "gravity knife". So if you guys live in New York, I wouldn't carry it around with me anywhere in NYC or in the suburbs of Long Island.
 
Translash said:
Just letting people know in new york. My brother was fooling around near someone's place and was arrested for trespassing. I gave him a RAT-1 which he carries as an EDC, and this knife was taken away from him because the police considered it a "gravity knife". So if you guys live in New York, I wouldn't carry it around with me anywhere in NYC or in the suburbs of Long Island.
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How could you consider that a gravity knife? If anything, it is spring assisted. At least here in Ohio, people are pretty good around knives.
 
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