Opinel Blade Failure

Dog of War said:
Probably fair to say, I look at Vivi's post a little like when some guy puts nude pix of his really hot girlfriend on his webpage -
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Dogs if you know of such sites feel free to send me the links just so I can check them out and give my personal disaprovel...you know what I mean.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
That was the point, so it isn't so limited in use. The Opinel is far thicker and is made from a steel which is optomized more for durability and is so hardened to optomized durability over retaining a high sharpness for light cutting. This all obviously means it was designed for heavier use.
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Then why the heck did you bring it up, other than to confuse things?

Oh, wait... ;)

"Never wrestle with a pig. You both end up covered in sh*t, but the pig likes it." :rolleyes:
 
Vivi,

I understand you originally got the knife on a trade. He feels badly about swapping you a bad knife, and contacted me about buying another one for you. Since he bought the bad one from me a while back, I feel badly about having sold it to him. If you’ll send me the defective knife, I’ll send you a new one. Besides, I’d like to see it.
There may be others, but this is the first really bad carbon steel Opinel I’ve heard of.
Now play nice guys. We’re all on the same side, I think.


Best Regards,
Ragnar

www.ragweedforge.com

Ragweed Forge
PO Box 326
Sanborn, NY 14132

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"A knifeless man is a lifeless man"
-old Nordic proverb
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Is that Ragnar cool or what?
Wow I've posted a gfew times in this thread and it's not me argueing with our expert. I feel left out. :D
 
Ragnar said:
Vivi,

I understand you originally got the knife on a trade. He feels badly about swapping you a bad knife, and contacted me about buying another one for you. Since he bought the bad one from me a while back, I feel badly about having sold it to him. If you’ll send me the defective knife, I’ll send you a new one. Besides, I’d like to see it.
There may be others, but this is the first really bad carbon steel Opinel I’ve heard of.
Now play nice guys. We’re all on the same side, I think.


Best Regards,
Ragnar
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Now that,, my friends, is a class act!! :thumbup:
 
That's a generous offer, Ragnar! The person who traded the knife to Vivi and wanted to help out deserves kudos too. You guys got class! :)
 
Ragnar said:
Vivi,

I understand you originally got the knife on a trade. He feels badly about swapping you a bad knife, and contacted me about buying another one for you. Since he bought the bad one from me a while back, I feel badly about having sold it to him. If you’ll send me the defective knife, I’ll send you a new one. Besides, I’d like to see it.
There may be others, but this is the first really bad carbon steel Opinel I’ve heard of.
Now play nice guys. We’re all on the same side, I think.


Best Regards,
Ragnar

www.ragweedforge.com

Ragweed Forge
PO Box 326
Sanborn, NY 14132

===================================
"A knifeless man is a lifeless man"
-old Nordic proverb
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Ragnar, you and the person I've traded with, Gryffin, have acted very kindly towards my situation. I thank the both of you. Personally, I see neither of you as responsible for this defect, so thanks to each of you for going above and beyond for me.

I'd like to take a few more photos of the knife and do one last testing with it, then I'll ship it off to you to examine. Maybe you'll be able to find a way to contact Opinel so we can make them aware of this too. This is the first time I've seen a bad blade on an Opinel myself so they'd probably like to be aware of this rare occurance. Either way, I look forward to purchasing knives from you in the future.

Thanks,
Mike
 
Cliff Stamp said:
That was the point, so it isn't so limited in use. The Opinel is far thicker and is made from a steel which is optomized more for durability and is so hardened to optomized durability over retaining a high sharpness for light cutting. This all obviously means it was designed for heavier use.
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Just a small point, what is this word "optomized"? I see you use it over and over, not just in this thread but in others as well. I've never heard of it. :confused: Is that a scientific term? :confused: Does it have anything to do with optometry? :confused:
 
threeblades said:
Just a small point, what is this word "optomized"? I see you use it over and over, not just in this thread but in others as well. I've never heard of it. :confused: Is that a scientific term? :confused: Does it have anything to do with optometry? :confused:
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It's Canadianese.
 
Two thumbs up to Ragnar. :thumbup: :thumbup:

I have only made one purchase from Ragnar but I was pleasantly surprised how quickly my order arrived considering they are in NY and I am in LA.
 
Maybe I can clear this up.
The root word "Optom" is Latin.
It translates into cinder block.
;)
:D
 
Cliff said:
Hardness testing is destructive, non-destructive testing are things like x-ray, ultra-sonic and the crack testing Swamp Rat does. Nondestructive testing is generally much more expensive, it is much easier to obtain the information if you are willing to damage the sample.

For example you can measure the sharpness by cutting something which is very cheap and easy or examine the edge under high magnification which doesn't effect the edge but costs a lot more and also isn't as direct because now you have to infer properties indirectly.
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Amstead, Ostwald, and Begeman: Manufacturing Processes lists hardness testing under non-destructive testing, and says this:

The puropse of nondestructive testing is simply to determine flaws or defects without damage to the object. Preservation of the part and economics are the motivating considerations [271].

Measurements of hardness have value in the nondestructive inspective of many industrial parts, because hardness and tensile strength are proportional... Because hardness measurements are relatively easy to make and seldom are destructive to the workpiece, such tests are used to control heat-treating and hot- and cold-working processes [30].

I do note that most volumes on NDT does not include hardness testing. I suppose it is down to a matter of sematics to call or not damage that doesn't practically alter the usability of the part as destructive.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
It is a public forum, in particular its a recorded public forum unlike most chats, so it is like writing a letter to someone which you then take particular instruction to mail to everyone on the planet at the same time. Email is a private web medium (aside from all the bots who scan it and those who moniter the bots).
-Cliff
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Cliff posted the above in responce to Ebb's "...this was not directed at you". So aparently everything posted on a public forum is directed at him. Ummmm....Ok then.

By the same standard, when Cliff called canranger a troll, he was also calling everyone else on Bladeforums a troll. I am offended at being called a troll in a thread that I didn't even post in. I think Cliff should post an apology to all of us.

Leo
 
Lion said:
Cliff posted the above in responce to Ebb's "...this was not directed at you". So aparently everything posted on a public forum is directed at him. Ummmm....Ok then.

By the same standard, when Cliff called canranger a troll, he was also calling everyone else on Bladeforums a troll. I am offended at being called a troll in a thread that I didn't even post in. I think Cliff should post an apology to all of us.

Leo
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Sorry, I cannot follow your argument. My take was that Cliff was merely saying that a post on a forum in there for anyone to see and comment on -- directed at the commentor or not. If you want to limit who responds at BF, you pretty much need not to post here.

But if he really called me a troll, I am as deeply offended as any adult should be about anything posted on the Internet.
 
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