Opinions on Cold Steel

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Arrived today, and I must say I have disappointed myself for not getting anything from cold steel sooner. Admittedly it isn't going to win any beauty contests, but this is a pretty no nonsense tool. I'll echo other's sentiments here and say this is one of the sharpest out-the-box blades I've ever purchased.

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I think any discussion about Cold Steel here on BF is weird. Personally, when they were were making their bones I thought the knives as well as Spyderco's offerings were ugly. I grew up with stag/bone/rare wood handles on knives, even work knives. An exception was Delrin (I know there were many other scale materials, but too many to list here) and some kind of cousin of Bakelite/phenolic used by Buck on their folders. Hand fitted blades on folders, even in big production knives like Buck and Schrade were the norm. Put the knife together, fit it for operation, sand it to remove as many defects as the price of the knife could stand, polish it and ship it.

So along comes CS and Spyderco. To me and mine, we thought that a pile of riveted parts (before the Spyderco fanboys start, take a look here: https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=21508 ) was a pile of crap. FRN handles, rivets like the rest of the gas station/bargain bin sporting goods knives, soft stainless blades... what wasn't to like about CS and Spyderco? Everyone I knew hated them. As construction guys that hunted, fished, and camped, etc., we still didn't get the idea of a carrying type "utility" knife that put use and utility over beauty. Our knives worked fine, they were carbon, they were pretty, had stag/bone/stacked leather handles, and we liked them that way.

Reading here, I never would have thought to buy a Cold Steel knife for work (or any) use. Who was that idiot pretending to make semi-marshal arts moves while chopping flesh, punching holes in metal, standing on his open folders, and on an on. I was on with the BF ethos... what a jerk! What a moron! I didn't understand at the time how effective his efforts were; people were posting LINKS to his videos on BF just so they could share their outrage together! Someone would try to top it and find a more outrageous video, and post a hot link to that one! Free advertising to show how sturdy and sharp his knives were, posted on a knife forum! Brilliant! I later talked to a friend of mine that met Lyn at a gun show, and he said Lyn got a kick out of doing those videos and sometimes it hard to keep a straight face while making them. His videos laying on a machine behind them in the CS booth while talking, he said Lyn would glance back at the video of him doing some nonesense and chuckle.

But I never would have owned a CS product except I was contacted off board by a maker/modifier. He bought an American Lawman, took it apart, cleaned off that miserable black paint on the blade, polished the TriAd lock pieces, modified the pocket clip a bit, and lightly sanded the scales. He sent me a bunch of pictures of his redo, and a testimonial from its good use on the ranch he was working on as a hand. Bought one, only did the pocket clip mods (figured the paint would wear off in its own) and took it to work. I was hooked. I have several now, all are the sturdiest work knives I own. They all have years of job site work in them now, the exception being the AD10 which is just too damn pretty to take out to cut gritty, dirty materials and get adhesives stuck to it.

I do think it weird though, with all the fiery disgust for Lyn, his products, his marketing and videos that there is kind of a melancholy wish for the "old" Cold Steel, pre GSM. Just posting "Cold Steel" here would get a lot of folks declaring they could NEVER buy a knife from a man that acted like Lyn to promote something as solemn as a knife. I am surprised that there are those that wish the for the old leadership, now take the old videos with a grain of salt, some even find them amusing now. VERY strange.

Change of ownership almost always means a change in direction of a company and a change in the way they do business. I hope CS can survive GSM and continue making great utility style knives without Lyn and Andrew, but that remains to be seen. Lyn was an innovator and had more bizarre stuff in his catalogue (blow guns... really?) than any other knife maker/seller/manufacturer I can think of. Seems like he always had something cooking, something new in the catalogue. No doubt that will go away as he seemed to still have a lot of genuine enthusiasm for anything with an edge on it. Selling to a conglomerate will probably at the least, shrink the CS catalogue.

Guys talking now about not buying CS now, at this time blaming GSM and the fact they didn't answer their phones after CS was sold probably were never going to buy them anyway, so no loss. Just another reason to complain about something. For now, I would think if you buy your CS from a responsible dealer, you will be fine. If you get as CS knife that works as advertised, I can't imagine one breaking under even "hard use". I bought some of my CS knives when they had a "limited" warranty, and have never had to think once about using any warranty. Hopefully it stays that way.
Very interesting take. I value opinions of those with more life experience than me. I am young, so it all existed for me - the classic pocketknife styles for the last 100 years from Germany, France, America, Japan... as well as the newer, faster, harder stuff, high and low quality both. I love them all for different reasons. I have a few "plain jane" FRN/G10 Spydercos, but also a milled copper Paramilitary 2, as well as one with micarta scales. I really want to buy more stag and wood handled knives, as I really do appreciate the beauty of a quality knife of any kind in a wood that isn't "paakawood". Going to get some custom Japanese Maple scales for my plain Jane PM2. I digress, though.

I agree with what you're saying about the intense criticism of LT and Cold Steel's over the top style and unabashed making of defensive tools, and now that they're gone, everyone is acting all nostalgic and sad, like when Michael Jackson died. Where were you all before?! Haha. I've always thought the over the top marketing was part of the charm, and I like to know that my XL Espada can hold two Lynn Thompsons if I needed it to.
 
M midnight flyer , your take is almost identical to mine, regarding both, Spyderco and CS…
This changed when I bought my firs CS - the L tanto Voyager. I came to Spyderco little bit later, when their riveted knives and plastic clips were almost gone, but they are great knives, this is what Inthink now.
Now I’m concentrating on some how old school models from both companies, mostly collectible pieces.
I completely lost interest of CS after it was purchased by GSM but I’ll checking still their production, you never know.
‘I think, Demco, being some how separated from the brand will succeed, he is very talented designer, he is developing a signature line of folders and I think large part of the old CS base will move in his direction.
I personally like the innovation he introduces with newly developed locks but I think this is mostly marketing move than something else. The old Triad lock have less parts to maintain, fiddle with or break, it’s a KISS lock and it’s strong enough so even the new locks looks cool and attractive, I’m still not interested. Of the new Demco lines, I personally find those too heavy and thick at the blade, not really something I prefer…

And one more time - good reading you got there Sir, I enjoyed your post !
 
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353 353 I used my Frontier Hawk last weekend to chop some firewood. What happens is the bit gets stuck in the wood, and you need to wiggle it loose before your next chop. In the past, my head would come loose easily. I can confirm that after fitting with a rasp, the head is much tighter on the handle, and it was pleasant to work with my hawk!
 
M midnight flyer , your take is almost identical to mine, regarding both, Spyderco and CS…
This changed when I bought my firs CS - the L tanto Voyager. I came to Spyderco little bit later, when their riveted knives and plastic clips were almost gone, but they are great knives, this is what Inthink now.

No doubt they are both a far cry from where they started. I was so turned off to their products when they came out I never looked at them again until I joined BF. Now, I have several CS products that rotate as my favorite work knives, and my Spyderco Vallotton... whoa... may just be the best fitted and finished knife I have ever owned. If I had a custom knife that was made to that level of quality I would be thrilled.

And one more time - good reading you got there Sir, I enjoyed your post !

Thanks! Every once in a while a thread here really piques my interest and I feel like I should respond. These days I enjoy reading the forum more than posting.
 
The Vallotton… tell me about it. One of the knives I’ll never sell or give away.
Spyderco and Cold Steel that I own are the knives that I use the most in my work rotation.
Very often I’ll carry Gail Bradley1 for work and Caly just for “gentleman“ use.
 
@ the reading more than posting, I only started posting once I ran out of your guys "story threads" to read on here! I spend days browsing, I love the threads where folks tell stories, who they met, what this person said at work about a SAK, you guys are an amusing, intelligent, fun bunch. I felt like I knew half the regulars before I started posting! Geez, that is a weird thing, isn't it? There is a name for that, like, when I am getting "to know" the regulars here, but you guys ain't even knew I was reading. "Parasocial Interaction". I hope I am not a creep, just like to lurk! 😂
 
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I do think it weird though, with all the fiery disgust for Lyn, his products, his marketing and videos that there is kind of a melancholy wish for the "old" Cold Steel, pre GSM. Just posting "Cold Steel" here would get a lot of folks declaring they could NEVER buy a knife from a man that acted like Lyn to promote something as solemn as a knife. I am surprised that there are those that wish the for the old leadership, now take the old videos with a grain of salt, some even find them amusing now. VERY strange.
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Yep. I called it back in the giant thread that came up back before/during the sale. It's interesting how powerful nostalgia can be. The guy could be a buffoon, but he's genuinely missed now that he's gone and the house he built has been added to the apartment complex built out of other sold brands and bailing wire that is GSM.

Great post. :thumbsup:
 
The guy could be a buffoon, but he's genuinely missed now that he's gone and the house he built has been added to the apartment complex built out of other sold brands and bailing wire that is GSM.
I can’t put it better for myself Forest. :cool::thumbsup:
 
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