Opinions on the Tolk?

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What do you think of the Brad Southard Performance Series Tolk?

For me, I think it's nothing special. I realize that many people love them, and Brad puts puts a lot of time into them, but I still think they're not anything to go out of your way trying to get. I certainly wouldn't pay $550+ for one like some people do.

Before I get into it, a little background. I own a Large Sebenza 21. I love it, as most Sebenza owners do. While I think that it's a great knife, it's certainly not the end all be all of every knife. It's probably the best production knife, but NOT in terms of value. I mention the Sebenza because some of my opinions on the Tolk can apply to the Sebenza as well, and some people on here may use my owning a Sebenza as a way to argue against me in a disrespectful way, just as a 'friend' of mine does. Just know a lot of my opinions on the Tolk apply to the Sebenza as well. I also prefer aspects of the Sebenza over the Tolk that I mention, but don't think I'm a Sebenza worshipper and fanboy.


So, the Tolk. I find the blade shape to be ugly. I just do. I don't like the curvyness of the spine. It's unappealing and doesn't fit the edge since it's almost a wharnecliffe. Your opinion may vary.

I don't like the little bulge towards the end of the handle. It's out of place to me. It also doesn't fit aesthetically in my opinion. It may be ergonomic, but I can't comment on that since I've never held one.

The thumb stud seemingly hinders sharpenability. It seems like, to me, that if you're sharpening with the Edge Pro or even the Wicked Edge, that the stone won't be able to reach past the stud to get towards the plunge grind. That's a major issue, if it is one, as I always put my own edge on a knife when I get it.


Lastly, value and offerings. What does the Tolk offer that other Midtechs don't? This is where I compare the Sebenza to the Tolk. The Sebenza offers impeccable quality and the perfect pivot bushing. Based on testing I've seen here and on YouTube, XHP and S35VN are roughly the same in terms of edge retention. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I find the Tolk to be boring. The satin grinds with stonewashed flats doesn't go with anything on the handle at all. To make it worse, the strange milling around the edges of the ti is out of place. My opinion, and yours may differ.



Overall, I don't find the Tolk to be anything more than a glorified Insingo Sebenza flipper with ball bearings, with tons of hype surrounding it simply because it's a Brad Southard midtech that he himself touched. Last time, that's my opinion. Please don't get offended by it. I posted a topic like this on Instagram and a ton of people starting laughing at an opinion and had nothing informed or intelligent to say back, so I've come here in hopes of a calm discussion.

That's my opinion, so what's yours? What do you think of the Tolk? I'm eager to hear what you have to say.

Thanks.
 
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Doesn't seem like much of a discussion but simply your views. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, enjoy whatever you choose.
Moving on...
 
Doesn't seem like much of a discussion but simply your views. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, enjoy whatever you choose.
Moving on...

TIL people have differing tastes and opinions, and value certain things and aspects in differing proportions.

But, snark aside, I pretty much 1:1 mirror the opinion of the OP. The Tolk does nothing for me, but I also haven't held one to fully appreciate one. Due to how much my opinion of Sebenzas changed once I had held one myself, my opinion is tentative but firm.
 
anustart,

I am still waiting for my Tolk to be delivered. So I cannot give my impression on it yet. But I had the same concern regarding the thumbstuds whether or not they prevent me from using Edge Pro on it. I sent the question to Brad Southard, and he assured me that the thumbstuds are far enough back on the blade that I can use Edge Pro without removing them. Since I am planning to reprofile the edge, I will tell you how it was once I get the knife.


Miso
 
anustart,

I am still waiting for my Tolk to be delivered. So I cannot give my impression on it yet. But I had the same concern regarding the thumbstuds whether or not they prevent me from using Edge Pro on it. I sent the question to Brad Southard, and he assured me that the thumbstuds are far enough back on the blade that I can use Edge Pro without removing them. Since I am planning to reprofile the edge, I will tell you how it was once I get the knife.


Miso
Cool, thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to what you have to say.
 
Doesn't change the fact that the OP left no openings for opinion, all bashing isn't exactly inviting. Sometimes opinions are just that...
I personally don't think my opinion is bashing. It may be derogatory and negative but I'm not bashing the knife. At least I don't think so.

If you think there's anything I can do to open it up for opinion please let me know. I'll edit the post. I'm eager to hear what others have to say.
 
Just another expensive overbuilt frame lock as far as I am concerned. Those types of knives have never done it for me.
 
I personally don't think my opinion is bashing. It may be derogatory and negative but I'm not bashing the knife. At least I don't think so.

If you think there's anything I can do to open it up for opinion please let me know. I'll edit the post. I'm eager to hear what others have to say.

What exactly are you trying to get out of this discussion? Do you think the opinions of others will change your mindset on the knife in question or are you trying to find people siding with you?
 
What exactly are you trying to get out of this discussion? Do you think the opinions of others will change your mindset on the knife in question or are you trying to find people siding with you?

Discussions don't necessarily need a goal or predetermined desired end result. He put his opinion out there and wanted to see what others thought. He might have found validation through those that agreed with him, he might have altered his perspective given the input of others, or he may just have fully fleshed out his thoughts and wanted to express them.

I don't know if it's particularly fair to question the motives behind a thread about an opinion about a knife when most threads here are inherently based on opinions about knives.
 
I have no real opinion on the Tolk as I have not handled one. However, it is too large a knife for MY casual carry needs.
Since the year began, I have been happily carrying the Brad Southard AVO, which is a smaller-sized folder, and I really enjoy it. I have plenty of experience with large and small CRK's and they are great products, but I prefer my AVO as it fits my hand size to perfection, and I think the design is quite excellent.
Certainly, personal opinion, the knife's specs as well as hand-size plays a large part in someone's choice. It's so nice that we have so many good products to pick from.
 
What exactly are you trying to get out of this discussion? Do you think the opinions of others will change your mindset on the knife in question or are you trying to find people siding with you?
Neither. I'm just curious about other's opinions and I'm curious about where they're coming from.
 
Discussions don't necessarily need a goal or predetermined desired end result. He put his opinion out there and wanted to see what others thought. He might have found validation through those that agreed with him, he might have altered his perspective given the input of others, or he may just have fully fleshed out his thoughts and wanted to express them.

I don't know if it's particularly fair to question the motives behind a thread about an opinion about a knife when most threads here are inherently based on opinions about knives.
That would be correct. 👍
 
It's so nice that we have so many good products to pick from.

For real. Given how small the knife community really is, it's absolutely amazing and wonderful how much variety there is out there. Really, one for every conceivable taste. That's why I have a hard time griping about any particular knife or any particular opinion about a knife - some things seem absolutely ridiculous and stupid to me that other people love and couldn't imagine carrying anything else. To each their own, and, certainly, there's one out there to call your own if you look hard enough.

*strokes Kershaw 4KXL*
 
Timely thread. :D

I've seen a few of these come up lately, and am kinda digging the styling; I was going to do a little research, so this should be a good resource.

Thanks, OP.
 
Timely thread. :D

I've seen a few of these come up lately, and am kinda digging the styling; I was going to do a little research, so this should be a good resource.

Thanks, OP.
No problem! I'm glad you're enjoying it.
 
I personally like the design and since I was looking for a large knife I picked up one from BST and eagrerly wait for it to be delivered. But I have no problem with others disliking the design. I took a leap of faith as I did not have the option to hold it in my hand - only saw photos online.

I also happen to like the design of Spyderco Southard (just do not like the 4mm thick stock) - I guess I will order one to comapre once the Tolk arrives what should be sometimes next week (hopefully).

I also have since recently a small Sebenza and while I love the way it feels (no spderco I have handled so far feeled as nice and Spydeco makes some really nice knives), but I am not quite as overwhelmed as I hoped to be as the blade is thicker than I would like (but I do realise that my expectations on this aspect of knife are a little off from average).

Whether these knives are overpriced - I do not know. One part of the price is high quality and not quite as high volume production and apparently customers are ready to pay for them, so they seem to be priced about right (at least in my definition of correct price). But I do not consider $500 knife cheap on my scale either ;)
 
You could have made this thread/your OP so much shorter and easier on the eyes;

"I don't like the Southard Tolk, there's nothing really wrong with it, it just doesn't appeal to me"

That's it in a nutshell...

Really difficult to have a worthwhile conversation about a particular knife when the only thing presented is personal opinion that is mostly about aesthetics and perceived value.
 
I've handled several Avo's and a couple of CRK's. I thought the craftsmanship of the Avo rivaled the CRK and was better ergonomically with better steel.
 
Have you bought a Tolk and these are your findings???? Have handled one and these thoughts came to your mind????
If the answer is no, how can you have a non threatening/bashing opinion of a knife based on pictures alone???
Since you mentioned CRK, a lot of folks have gotten them and love them, some have heard all the praise they get and are disappointed when they get theirs, and some just don't like a CRK.
IMO, it's not until you have one in hand that you can truly form an honest opinion about any knife.
I have an AVO and CRK's, although the AVO is a great knife, it still does not surpass the CRK's.
Because Brad Southard is an excellent knife maker and well respected, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Tolk.
 
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