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jhyde7585 said:
Snipers are by far the best designs ever, in my opinion. Nice choil, handle angle is spot on, as is the size overall.
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I like how they look. But have heard some chatter that they are real thick behind the edge? Not sure on that one.
gooeytek said:
Yea, I've seen them before but I've never handled one. They might have good ergos, but I'm just not too fond of their designs.
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I hear you. What about those Medfords lol? I bet they would be up your alley as far as beefy goes.
 
jhyde7585 said:
I have heard the same
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I have gotten a bit picky lol. I can't go much thicker than a Para 2 unless we are talking a chopper fixed blade or something along those lines. As far as behind the edge goes. I find it a bit odd that the Military is ground thinner than the Para 2.
 
Yea, I like the look of the Titanium Praetorian pretty much for the same reason as the Carrillo Tripwire.
 
Ok, this behind the edge business.......explain. Thought I grasped the concept, then the milli is ground thinner than the PM2? Elaborate. Pics help, me stupid.
 
jhyde7585 said:
Ok, this behind the edge business.......explain. Thought I grasped the concept, then the milli is ground thinner than the PM2? Elaborate. Pics help, me stupid.
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I am on my phone or I would go on paint and do a few pictures. Basically though, thickness behind the edge is measured where your secondary bevel (edge) meets the primary bebel (grind, I.E. flat grind, hollow ect). You are measuring the thickness at that point. The thinner it is behind the edge the better it will part materials. It is also "weaker" though as there is less metal behind the edge. However I have not destroyed my thinly ground blades...yet lol. As a disclaimer I don't mean to sound elitist and I still buy production knives :D. It is always nice to hear about thin production knives. Customs I go thin all the way.
 
jhyde7585 said:
Ok, this behind the edge business.......explain. Thought I grasped the concept, then the milli is ground thinner than the PM2? Elaborate. Pics help, me stupid.
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The Horton I have in the pic, although the blade is 0.190" thick, it's a hollow-ground chisel that's 0.010" behind the edge. Even though it's a thick blade, it's a very very fine slicer. The beefy convex at the tip doesn't compromise any strength when stabbing or prying. The thickness behind the edge is thicker towards the tip.

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Steel130 said:
I am on my phone or I would go on paint and do a few pictures. Basically though, thickness behind the edge is measured where your secondary bevel (edge) meets the primary bebel (grind, I.E. flat grind, hollow ect). You are measuring the thickness at that point. The thinner it is behind the edge the better it will part materials. It is also "weaker" though as there is less metal behind the edge. However I have not destroyed my thinly ground blades...yet lol.
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So how is the milli thinner behind the edge than the PM2 if its FFG? The blade stock is thicker. I guess I can see how the secondary bevel itself could be thicker, depending on the angle. But they are both FLAT, at a thickness of 4mm (milli) and 3.5mm (PM2)

Maybe I'm just missing something. This all makes sense in my head lol
 
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