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KnottyEagle said:
I'm not trying to say that he should've had consequences held against him for flirting with a girl. I do it. Everyone does it. I'm saying that what he did, with that time-period, and with the whole civil rights movement, was uncalled for. That would be like me going down south and going to a deep pro-confederate area and yelling "Abraham Lincoln kicked all of your a****!!" You just don't do that. It's stupid. I have most certainly done some very foolish things in my life. Some I regret, some I don't.

Again, I don't agree with him being murdered. I just think he should've realized that doing that kind of thing was unnecessary.
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To call flirting with a girl uncalled for, I don't think makes much sense. He was a teenager. That itself makes flirtation called for. Social climate doesn't affect your rights, and it shouldn't have affected his. That's why this became a piece of history. I would say you should be able to go down to whatever place and say to anyone whatever you want to say. That's what freedom is about, and I'm always for more freedom. The freedom has its downsides as well, and that's the part where people forget about what freedom really is. If you have the freedom to say what you like, then so does everyone else. Till didn't commit any crime, at all. The "he should have known better" is nonsense, and it's never an excuse. You don't blame the victim, period.

Read this article, and try to say that they should've known better, or that what the victims did was uncalled for. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4457699.stm

Sure, it was all likely stupid, but that's not how it's supposed to go. Again, it's why this is such a prominent part of history. It's an example of the failing of people and the utter stupidity that people are capable of when the ignorance of prejudice takes over. I can only assume that this is part of your curriculum because it's important to understand the kind of struggle people went through in this very country, not that long ago.


Chris Pierce said:
I've been meaning to ask this question for a while. Several weeks ago I bought a pretty well used whirlwind and it needed a new torsion bar and a clip. I asked Kershaw to send me the replacement parts and they did send me a new clip, but no torsion bar. Is this normal? Once in the past I asked for a pocket clip for my JYDII and they sent me a clip for a JYD. It's great that they send free parts, but so far they're batting a big 0, for me anyway.
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If you got the clip, wouldn't they be batting 0.500?
 
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Chris Pierce said:
Actually I'm looking a lot cleaning now a days. My wife decided that my mustache going up her nose was a bad thing. Women. sheesh :D
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Well you need to make a bunch of "creeper stare" pics before you alter it in any way. We need it for entertainment purposes.
 
I've got some special things coming my way now as well... A couple of them were birthday presents. One from myself, one from a friend/coworker. Sadly, none of them are Kershaws... once I get all this selling/buying straightened out, I feel I should give Dave more of my money. However then again, I'm saving what's left for the upcoming sexiness from ZT...

I need more tutoring hours.
 
seelow123 said:
Well you need to make a bunch of "creeper stare" pics before you alter it in any way. We need it for entertainment purposes.
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With a clean face? No fun. I'm planning on growing my face out again. Maybe I'll take some then. This shaving twice a week is killing me.
 
Chris Pierce said:
With a clean face? No fun. I'm planning on growing my face out again. Maybe I'll take some then. This shaving twice a week is killing me.
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Ah, I mis-read your post. I thought you were going for "I'm looking a lot at cleaning up now a days" meaning you were about to to chop it off, but hadn't yet. My bad.
 
sticktodrum said:
To call flirting with a girl uncalled for, I don't think makes much sense. He was a teenager. That itself makes flirtation called for. Social climate doesn't affect your rights, and it shouldn't have affected his. That's why this became a piece of history. I would say you should be able to go down to whatever place and say to anyone whatever you want to say. That's what freedom is about, and I'm always for more freedom. The freedom has its downsides as well, and that's the part where people forget about what freedom really is. If you have the freedom to say what you like, then so does everyone else. Till didn't commit any crime, at all. The "he should have known better" is nonsense, and it's never an excuse. You don't blame the victim, period.

Read this article, and try to say that they should've known better, or that what the victims did was uncalled for. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4457699.stm

Sure, it was all likely stupid, but that's not how it's supposed to go. Again, it's why this is such a prominent part of history. It's an example of the failing of people and the utter stupidity that people are capable of when the ignorance of prejudice takes over. I can only assume that this is part of your curriculum because it's important to understand the kind of struggle people went through in this very country, not that long ago
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Stick, I understand what you're saying. I'm not calling flirting with a girl uncalled for for just the flirtation factor of it, I'm calling what Till did uncalled for based off of that time period, that's it. If he did what he did then, now, then nothing would happen to him, but because it was in the middle of the civil rights movement, actions were taken against him. I don't agree with those actions, at all, but the fact that it was during the civil rights movement, accounts for most of the reason he was killed.

I also believe that you should be able to go anywhere in this country and say anything you want, but that's not the way our society works, especially back then. You had bigger consequences back then if you did something like that, and unfortunately, Till's consequence was death. If I went up to my teacher and said "F*** off!!!", there would most certainly be consequences. That's what I'm trying to say about what happened with Till. Did he really think he was going to get off scott-free for that? There were going to be repercussions, but death shouldn't have been that repercussion, period.
 
BrentD86 said:
Just do it, that is the nicest blade zt makes and until you get your hands on one and break it in... Words can't even express how nice they are.
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Break it in is right. I have steb's 0561 on loan, and it's one of the older ones. Well worn in. This is seriously as smooth as the Tilt.





TotalDbag said:
Morning everyone.
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Yo!




bad_juju said:
Its not a blur...
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They will pay!




KnottyEagle said:
Stick, I understand what you're saying. I'm not calling flirting with a girl uncalled for for just the flirtation factor of it, I'm calling what Till did uncalled for based off of that time period, that's it. If he did what he did then, now, then nothing would happen to him, but because it was in the middle of the civil rights movement, actions were taken against him. I don't agree with those actions, at all, but the fact that it was during the civil rights movement, accounts for most of the reason he was killed.

I also believe that you should be able to go anywhere in this country and say anything you want, but that's not the way our society works, especially back then. You had bigger consequences back then if you did something like that, and unfortunately, Till's consequence was death. If I went up to my teacher and said "F*** off!!!", there would most certainly be consequences. That's what I'm trying to say about what happened with Till. Did he really think he was going to get off scott-free for that? There were going to be repercussions, but death shouldn't have been that repercussion, period.
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While I still disagree, it looks like you're giving it better thought when you express ideas like that. Note how what you're writing now is significantly different from "he kind of deserved it." Saying different things in different ways can make all the difference. It's why I'm usually so long winded and wordy. :D

I'm going to post tracking numbers for you guys too!
 
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