Order of KAI Official Hang Out; Part Deux - It's Enrico Palazzo!

Oh Reary!?

I am thinking we might need to make an amendment that rep points can't be more than half of the 12. They were only ever meant for people who needed oen or two or three tops. No offense but thats what we had in mind when we started the Order. Hang around post a little here and a little there, buy a few knives and if you still need a few points then ask for a couple recommendations.

I'm not getting half of the points from recs.
I only have about three or four recs.
(even that is substantial, thanks guys!)

Nah, i'm not going to submit my score to the points thread until I hit 15 points.

There, does that make you happy?

:p
 
Mornin fellas

Gotta tally up my points but I think I make 12 with my newly acquired 801 and 600...
 
Well.

I see someone isn't going to like the new kid.
:p

Lighten up, man!
I'm trying to earn a place!
:)

Nothing against you whatsoever. If you're trying to earn a place you should have no problem doing it the way you're supposed to:)
 
Ugh I hate travel days. No knives makes me feel naked.

I know how you feel...I have to go on a cruise next month. I'm going to try to sneak a SAK by on my keys. My wife had one last cruise and they didn't give her any trouble. Mine is an emerald green and doesn't look like much of anything. Here's hoping!

So indeed, where are you going?


Mornin fellas

Gotta tally up my points but I think I make 12 with my newly acquired 801 and 600...

It'll be fine.
 
Oh, alright! Anyone see gavko's new frame lock? I'm really liking it!

Well if it's your thing, then more power to ya. I saw it and I'm not a fan. In fact, I don't like any of his stuff. The whole "rock theme" is whack and the overly thick form factor is not very elegant. He is talented, I can't dispute that but his style just doesn't do it for me. And that tanic he just got...my god. There is no way that dude is carrying that clipped to his pocket and walking the streets of Brooklyn. No way. He'd get arrested in a minute. Hell I've got family on the force and I couldn't do it. If I clipped that to my pocket, as soon as I walk out of my apartment an nypd helicopter would show up and land on top me me and crush me to death. Period. End of story.
 
Well if it's your thing, then more power to ya. I saw it and I'm not a fan. In fact, I don't like any of his stuff. The whole "rock theme" is whack and the overly thick form factor is not very elegant. He is talented, I can't dispute that but his style just doesn't do it for me. And that tanic he just got...my god. There is no way that dude is carrying that clipped to his pocket and walking the streets of Brooklyn. No way. He'd get arrested in a minute. Hell I've got family on the force and I couldn't do it. If I clipped that to my pocket, as soon as I walk out of my apartment an nypd helicopter would show up and land on top me me and crush me to death. Period. End of story.

I don't have a problem if you don't like it, to each there own. Personally I like the way the lines flow on his knives *shrug*
 
I don't have a problem if you don't like it, to each there own. Personally I like the way the lines flow on his knives *shrug*

Lines flow? Specifically that folder he made, the lines aren't flowing anywhere. I saw the blanks, and when he put the blanks together it actually didn't look half bad. Then he did that stupid feces texture and the blue/brown nonsense and ruined it. When one speaks of lines flowing, I think of this:

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man everyone is super sensitive today.... wtf

And then you add your pissy attitude to the mix and a poop-storm just flares up. :D


Stick gotta flashlight question for you.........Well, more of a battery question.

Absolutely.
 
Ok, I was reading up on rechargeable batteries that can be used in CR123A lights. Two types of batteries were being discussed. The first battery was the "protected" RCR123, and the second was the AW IMR16340. They were saying some sort of light related mumbo jumbo, that I don't understand yet. But in the mix, they said one battery may better well serve your flashlight than the other, and picking the wrong one, may possibly end in your light biting the dust. (that, or they said the battery would bite the dust)
Which one should I use in the Olight S10? Or should I even use rechargeables?
 
Lines flow? Specifically that folder he made, the lines aren't flowing anywhere. I saw the blanks, and when he put the blanks together it actually didn't look half bad. Then he did that stupid feces texture and the blue/brown nonsense and ruined it. When one speaks of lines flowing, I think of this:

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And then you add your pissy attitude to the mix and a poop-storm just flares up. :D




Absolutely.

I'm not specifically talking about his folder. More his knives in general, that's just my taste. On a side note that is a beautiful knife and one I've posted before. "Dark" by Igor Shirogorov and Dmitri Sinkovich.
 
Well, the S10 has one of the best regulation circuits of any light in its size and price range (the standard S10 at about $40, titanium notwithstanding). It will handle an RCR123 or an IMR 16340, or a regular CR123a primary cell (non-rechargeable). When using the S10, you don't have to really worry about the battery except for the heat buildup, since it's a very small light with little heat dissipation built in. On that front, if you can still hold the head of the light, it's fine.

On those batteries, essentially they use different chemistries. The standard RCR123 that you'll find (most people like the AW brand, as they're very good cells) use a lithium cobalt oxide cell, which is in itself a rather unsafe chemistry. The majority of those batteries you'll find have protection circuits in them that will keep the cell from overchraging, overdischarging, and from discharging too quickly. Again, the AW brand have those protection circuits, and they work well.

The IMR batteries don't have protection circuits, because in some instances they don't need them. IMR is a bit of an interesting misnomer, since they should me "LMO" for lithium manganese oxide (I think...). It doesn't necessarily mean that the cell is safer, but it is ostensibly a safer, more stable cell chemistry than LiCO, and also offers a much lower internal resistance, which would result in a higher amperage coming out of the battery. These would benefit a light that draws a lot of power very quickly.

Just remember that whenever you see a "16340," that's just referring to the size of the battery. It's the width (16mm) by the length (34mm) and a 0. Similarly a AA size battery is referred to as a 14500 for 14x50mm. They're approximate, as you'll find some batteries are longer or shorter depending on the brand and protection circuits. The size is usually just referring to the cell itself. So, you'll also see 18650 batteries and lights, which are very popular because of the large capacity those batteries have for their relative size.

If you want a quick and easy solution to using Li-ion batteries, I recommend getting AW RCR123s, or the Nitecore brand. They're both very good. Stay away from the "XXXXFire" brands like TrustFire. Surefire is a great brand however, but they only make CR123a batteries, not rechargeables as far as I know. For a charger, I recommend the NiteCore Intellicharger, either the i2 or i4. It's a great charger, charges all types of batteries, and does it all automatically and independently. It detects the type of battery, applies the proper charging method, and stops when it's full. Simple as that. It's a good charger, and it simple. You can find them on Amazon. I use the i4, and it works for Li-ion batteries as well as the NiMH rechargeable Eneloops/Duracells/Energizers. It fits the 16340 size as well as the 18650 size. It really does a lot.

Actually, I have a couple of extra AW RCR123s. If you decide to go the route of Li-ion rechargeables, let me know and I'll send a couple your way on the cheap when you pick up a charger. I bought 4 of them, only need two now since I use AA/14500 lights for the most part.


For more details, give these a read:

http://www.rigcast.com/flashlights/lithium-ion-guide/

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?325456-What-exactly-does-quot-IMR-quot-mean


Edit: If you take a look at Going Gear, you'll find AW batteries, but also ones from EagleTac and XTAR. Those are both very good brands, and while I can't confirm those specific batteries, the 18650 batteries I have from EagleTac use very very good cells and work perfectly.
 
Thanks Mario. I think I'm going to burn through my CR123 primaries, before I switch to rechargeables
 
There's a guy in the exchange trying to sell a brown Skyline for 75 bucks. I can get one from dave for 50:confused:
 
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