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OT: Caos in San Francisco. Stupid protesters.
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Ben Arown-Awile
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>> A few years after the protesting malcontents and traitors overthrew the government, they found that the new government was even worse.
>Bunk
>They did not find this. They found they were human, and attempted a letter of law that would surmount.
>munk
They always knew that they were human, they also knew that they were being exploited.
For more info, research "Shay's Rebellion"
It was the first protest against the new American government and exposed the weakness of the the Articles of Confederation. It was directly responsible for the drafting of the U.S. Constitution.
>Bunk
>They did not find this. They found they were human, and attempted a letter of law that would surmount.
>munk
They always knew that they were human, they also knew that they were being exploited.
For more info, research "Shay's Rebellion"
It was the first protest against the new American government and exposed the weakness of the the Articles of Confederation. It was directly responsible for the drafting of the U.S. Constitution.
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Originally posted by Federico
Is it just me, or are alot of these "protestors" just disgruntled democrats who are just looking for an excuse to attack the administration? Im ashamed to say my sister and her friends are the protestin type. I always ask her why she's protesting, and she quotes me a lame slogan she's been programmed with. Then I question the validity of whatever lame slogan she's picked up, and she draws a blank stare and gets mad that I have the nerve to question the drivel she's been programmed with (and of course she never has a reply).I wouldnt mind so much if she was truly protesting because she truly fealt that the war was wrong for a valid reason (not just the bad propaganda that she's been spoon fed), but instead it just reminds me of the Paul Wellstone memorial, just a foul excuse for Democrats to have a highly publicized rally.
I don't think the majority are just disgruntled democrats, but political parties are surely involved here in Australia, too. In fact, the entire political opposition is against Australian Prime Minister John Howard's stand. As u all may know, is one of The President's staunchest allies.
Personally, *NONE* of the anti-war protesters (at least here) have *ANY* idea 'bout The Big Picture. They all see the "racist" war as a bad thing and it's all about getting at Iraq's oil...
Been arond; knowng you've been exploited, and find many of the same faults with any new government, is not the same, as you stated, that they were worse. They were not worse than England, or France, they had a bold experitment. If your writer Shay thinks the fonders felt they were worse than what came before, then either the fonders or Shay is wrong. It far more likey they were discouraged the same prblems with any government were also theirs, dispite their best efforts. The documens they'd written were betten than what came before.
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Munk,
The "Shay" to whom I refer was not a writer. He was a farmer. In 1786 he led the first protest against the new American government. They were demanding a fair and uniform monetary and taxation system that would protect the farmers and working class from abuse by the wealthy landowners who controlled the courts.
The Articles of Confederation did not provide a uniform policy nor give protection to the individual. A new convention was convened to revise and strengthen the Articles. The result was the Constitution of the United States.
It was Shay's rebellion that forced the drafting of the Constitution. The Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence, nor the Articles of Confederation, was really the beginning of the United States of America.
In the 1780's, after the Revolutionary War, most citizens favored remaining British subjects. They thought that the war would force the king to revise his policies toward the Colonies. Creating a new country was never the intent of the Revolution in the minds of the majority of the citizens.
Had Daniel Shays group of protestors not disagreed with government policy, the Constitution might never have been written and the United States, although an independent country, would probably have become part of the British Commonwealth.
The intent of my original post was not to give a lesson in history, but to comment that protests against the government can best be judged in a rational historical context, rather than through the partisan emotionalism of the moment.
The "Shay" to whom I refer was not a writer. He was a farmer. In 1786 he led the first protest against the new American government. They were demanding a fair and uniform monetary and taxation system that would protect the farmers and working class from abuse by the wealthy landowners who controlled the courts.
The Articles of Confederation did not provide a uniform policy nor give protection to the individual. A new convention was convened to revise and strengthen the Articles. The result was the Constitution of the United States.
It was Shay's rebellion that forced the drafting of the Constitution. The Constitution, not the Declaration of Independence, nor the Articles of Confederation, was really the beginning of the United States of America.
In the 1780's, after the Revolutionary War, most citizens favored remaining British subjects. They thought that the war would force the king to revise his policies toward the Colonies. Creating a new country was never the intent of the Revolution in the minds of the majority of the citizens.
Had Daniel Shays group of protestors not disagreed with government policy, the Constitution might never have been written and the United States, although an independent country, would probably have become part of the British Commonwealth.
The intent of my original post was not to give a lesson in history, but to comment that protests against the government can best be judged in a rational historical context, rather than through the partisan emotionalism of the moment.
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Did I mention that Ben is a retired college history professor?
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Who are you getting me mixed up with Bill?
Besides those few years in the military, the closest thing I ever had to a steady job was growing illegal agricultural products.
I did retire from that though, although not voluntarily.
Besides those few years in the military, the closest thing I ever had to a steady job was growing illegal agricultural products.
I did retire from that though, although not voluntarily.
