OT: CZ52 f-ing rocks!

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hollowdweller

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I had been looking for one of these for a while and recently found one at

www.makarov.com , which is a gun shop specializing in Eastern bloc stuff near where I live. Price was killer and took it home and cracked off some rounds.

This is a great gun! I had them put in a firing pin that eases up on the trigger pull and it shoots killer! I usually take a while to acclimate to a pistol, but I was hitting the black at even close to 50 yards today.

Only bad thing is the thing must eject brass 20 25 feet. Need somebody spotting with a catchers mitt!
 
Isn't the ammo just a 9mm short round? I always think of the 9 as on the light side, and so this is light-light.
I used to have a 380, which is pretty close to the ammo in the Makarov. I like the 9mm (have 2), but can not see the need for the Makarov when you can get a short Glock.
The gun is very accurate from your description, but will it really do any more than a 22 - in terms of accuracy, or a regular 9mm Luger - in terms of power?
 
ejecting that far means it might need a new recoil spring...

I have a Makarov that I like. Russian made, I am pretty sure, very similar to the PPK, a knockoff practically, but a bit bigger. I got mine chambered in .380. I don't fire it much.

What is your new pistol chambered in?
 
CZ52 is chambered in 7.62x25 Russian. 1500fps+ with a 85-90gr bullet. Shoots flat and hard. Most all ammo is non reloadable except for Fiocchi I think. The Tokarev shoots the 7.62x25 also. I have both and they are great fun to shoot as well as extremely accurate.

My name is Ice and I'm a 7.62x25-a-holic.

Ice
 
Right. I have a makarov too it's shorter than a std 9mm.

The CZ52 is as our man Green Ice says. I got 300 rounds of reloadable by FOM? for 58 bucks. They also make a jacketed hollow point and Winchester also makes it. The guy at the store said use the solid tips if you are going to shoot small game. That a guy that bought one shot a rabbit with the hollow points and it shredded it.

The accuracy and trigger pull on this is awesome. Way better than my Makarov or my WW1 model 1911.
 
Green Ice said:
CZ52 is chambered in 7.62x25 Russian. 1500fps+ with a 85-90gr bullet. Shoots flat and hard. Most all ammo is non reloadable except for Fiocchi I think. The Tokarev shoots the 7.62x25 also. I have both and they are great fun to shoot as well as extremely accurate.

My name is Ice and I'm a 7.62x25-a-holic.

Ice
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How to you like the Torkarev?
 
It looks like we have a new convert. :D

If you've been over to makarov.com, you've probably already seen the standard warnings. I'd personally recommend against using a magazine as a disassembly tool - it's a good way to bend the floorplate. I use a brass punch for mine.
 
Don't dryfire the CZ 52 with the standard firing pin. It *will* break. Someone dryfired mine before I shot it...

Use a replacement firing pin from Makarov.com.

The '52 will penetrate at least level 2 body armor with most ammo.

The Makarov is 9x18mm. It is .36, instead of the .35 that 9x19mm (Parabellum/Luger) is. It's slightly more powerful than .380 (9x17mm).

John
 
My CZ52 with Sellier&Belliot ammo went through 8 inches of telephone books like a Kukri through butter.

It appears to be a perfect standby weapon as I suspect it would pass through a car door, the body of the goblin sitting inside the car, and out the other door.

How can a fellow go wrong for $89.95 which includes a holster and an extra mag.

Aim Surplus has them and they ship second day air. :)
 
clearblue said:
How can a fellow go wrong for $89.95 which includes a holster and an extra mag.

Aim Surplus has them and they ship second day air. :)
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I've gotta get me one of these! Thanks for the link!:D Which is the best ammo for them, the brass case or the FMJ?

What kind of licensing or what do you have to go through?

At $8.50 for 50 rounds they're pretty cheap to shoot ainnit?:D
 
clearblue said:
My CZ52 with Sellier&Belliot ammo went through 8 inches of telephone books like a Kukri through butter.

It appears to be a perfect standby weapon as I suspect it would pass through a car door, the body of the goblin sitting inside the car, and out the other door.

How can a fellow go wrong for $89.95 which includes a holster and an extra mag.

Aim Surplus has them and they ship second day air. :)
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Has anyone tried the 1980's Brass Case Romanian surplus ammunition for the CZ52 that Aim surplus sells? Is it reasonably reliable and is it corrosive ? I've been thinking about ordering one or two of the CZ52's from them.

Got to use the old curio and relics license for something.:)
 
I had the guys at Markarov.com put the higher grade firing pin in while I was there. With the better firing pin the trigger pull is really sweet. Yeah, they have a good site and lots of fun guns in their store too.


I was taught as a kid never to dry fire a gun so that won't be a problem for me.
 
I'll come out for the record and say that with 99% of the firearms out there (excluding rimfires), there's absolutely nothing wrong with dryfiring. As Spectre pointed out, CZ52's are in the 1%.

Most of the aftermarket firing pins are advertised as being safe(r) for dryfiring. Snap caps will suffice for safety if you're concerned about it. I don't know about the availability of 7.62x25mm caps, but 9x19mm caps chamber in both of mine.
 
An FFL near you would need to send the seller an original copy of his FFL signed in ink ( they usually want about $25 at reasonable dealers , but some SOB's want outrageous prices ) and you'd need to send a cashiers check or postal money order along with the FFL for the cost + shipping, usually UPS or other carrier next day air at $25 shipping.

You get a local dealer to send a copy of his FFL to the seller
You pay the seller his price and shipping by money order up front. Mail both in same envelope
Seller then ships to the local dealer.
Local dealer then calls you on arrival and you go there and fill the 4473 out.
You either pay local dealer up front or when it arrives, for his time and doing the paperwork.
 
hollowdweller said:
How to you like the Torkarev?
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Get M57 instead (Yugoslav made Tokarev, slide is machined out of a solid block rather than cast and overall quality of manufacturing is better than Russian/Chinese/etc. stuff, plus the magazine can accomodate one extra round). It is a single-action pistol just like CZ-52.

Manufacturer's webpage: http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/civilni.htm, click "Pistols" on the left side and M57 in top right corner (their english sucks but it gets the point across)

Carman, treat all milsurp ammo as corrosive, it usually is.

Make sure you don't use Czech "hot" 7.62x25 round in any of those pistols (even though they could handle it) - that ammo was spiced up for use in SMGs.
 
hollowdweller said:
How to you like the Torkarev?
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I have the Polish made Tokarev and think its great. The TOK is smaller than the CZ so you can CCW carry it if you want to. You have to be careful not to shoot the hot subgun ammo in it or you'll beat it up - the CZ is stronger in that area. Also the TOK comes fitted with an aftermarket safety so it can be imported. The safety is mickeymouse and held in with an E-clip so I just don't use it. Sights are typical military fixed and small but usable. Shoots great and is accurate.

Ice
 
Is the CZ52 concealable under a paunch or in a fat man's pocket?;)
If so I might have to start wearing suspenders with my sweat pants.:rolleyes: Do you s'posse it would be a dead giveaway or would people just think I was really insecure? ;) :D
 
CARman said:
Has anyone tried the 1980's Brass Case Romanian surplus ammunition for the CZ52 that Aim surplus sells? Is it reasonably reliable and is it corrosive ?
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I have some of the Romanian. Its both reliable and accurate. 1224rds in the spam can at $119.95 is a great price. Be sure that they give you the great big can opener (no kidding). If the opener breaks like mine did, you can use a hammer and chisel to open the can. Just be careful not to hit the cartridges.

"Is it corrosive?" All surplus 7.62x25 ammo is corrosive. Be sure to thoroughly clean your gun or it will rust badly. I use Windex with 5% ammonia to clean and give it a second cleaning with Shooters Choice which also has ammonia. The ammonia neutralizes the corrosive salts and makes it easy to remove.

Ice
 
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