Well, my Grandpa got off The Boat from Finland in 1914, and my Dad was raised in a community where everybody spoke Finn unless they went into town. Of the kids who attended a one-room schoolhouse with him, about half left the area and had successful careers and the other half faltered - died drunk in the woods or came to some other kind of grief. Immigrants have it rough when they arrive regardless of their motivation and people like me raised in a comfortable, mono-linguistic and established environment are probably not entitled to comment on whether they are "good immigrants" or "bad immigrants." They all bear a heavier cross than I, and if a few stumble they will receive no criticism from me.
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OT: Fitting in
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I missed Don's reply on my rush out the door to Omaha yesterday. I will more than agree that there is a big difference between Lincoln and Omaha area and the rest of this state. BIG difference.
I was stationed in Germany for 3 years, too. My first husband was black and we did have a little problem finding housing. We finally found a place that wanted most of the rent paid in Marlboro's and Jim Beam. So whatever
I am still not sure if the fact of our interracial marriage had anything to do with the divorce or not, as he was extremely abusive and finally beat me so bad that my commander threatened me with an article 15 for destruction of govt. property if I didn't file for divorce. I didn't fight as I'm sure it couldn't have been done(the art.15 i mean),but I was tired of being the punching bag. Then fast forward 20 years to Spokane WA, when Eric got out of the service and was looking for a job. No such luck. Companies had to import people to fill the "quotas" of minorities. He interviewed for one job that he was very qualified for, but didn't get the job because they needed minorities. Found out about that when the interviewer had drinks after work with my brother and was discussing his woes of not being able to fill jobs. With out naming names he talked about Eric and my bro figured out real quick that it was Eric he was talking about. Still no job, So we ate another move to get a job with the railroad.
Whoever said that the changes need to come from all people was right on. As a white person I can't make amends for what people did 150 years ago, Heck my family wasn't even here then, but, I want to do what's right now. I can't change everyone, but I can teach my kids and then there are 3 more colorblind people in the world who will look at a person for what he really is and not just what he looks like on the outside.
BTW, If being dark skinned is so evil, why do white girls and guys spend sooo much $$ and time at tanning boothes and laying in the sun (when it's known to be really bad for you) to try to get a dark tan. I've never figured that one out.
bummer, my coffee cup is empty. Must be time for another pot. I guess in my own way I am prejudice...I don't like mean people
That's why I hang out here. You are all a bunch of nice guys.
I was stationed in Germany for 3 years, too. My first husband was black and we did have a little problem finding housing. We finally found a place that wanted most of the rent paid in Marlboro's and Jim Beam. So whatever
I am still not sure if the fact of our interracial marriage had anything to do with the divorce or not, as he was extremely abusive and finally beat me so bad that my commander threatened me with an article 15 for destruction of govt. property if I didn't file for divorce. I didn't fight as I'm sure it couldn't have been done(the art.15 i mean),but I was tired of being the punching bag. Then fast forward 20 years to Spokane WA, when Eric got out of the service and was looking for a job. No such luck. Companies had to import people to fill the "quotas" of minorities. He interviewed for one job that he was very qualified for, but didn't get the job because they needed minorities. Found out about that when the interviewer had drinks after work with my brother and was discussing his woes of not being able to fill jobs. With out naming names he talked about Eric and my bro figured out real quick that it was Eric he was talking about. Still no job, So we ate another move to get a job with the railroad. Whoever said that the changes need to come from all people was right on. As a white person I can't make amends for what people did 150 years ago, Heck my family wasn't even here then, but, I want to do what's right now. I can't change everyone, but I can teach my kids and then there are 3 more colorblind people in the world who will look at a person for what he really is and not just what he looks like on the outside.
BTW, If being dark skinned is so evil, why do white girls and guys spend sooo much $$ and time at tanning boothes and laying in the sun (when it's known to be really bad for you) to try to get a dark tan. I've never figured that one out.
bummer, my coffee cup is empty. Must be time for another pot. I guess in my own way I am prejudice...I don't like mean people
That's why I hang out here. You are all a bunch of nice guys.
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As usual, I don't know the answers to anything. As Ben (I think) mentioned in another non-controversial thread: We're ALL full of it.
I do know that tolerance and accepting people for what they can't be legislated. That only pulls a thin veneer of civility over the whole mess, and usually just makes some other ugliness pop up somewhere else.
Mama, you're right: mean people suck.
I do know that tolerance and accepting people for what they can't be legislated. That only pulls a thin veneer of civility over the whole mess, and usually just makes some other ugliness pop up somewhere else.
Mama, you're right: mean people suck.
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I am fair and show no partiality. I hate everyone equally.
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If not so tragic it would be laughable.
There is a good article in the latest Scientific American RE
skin darkness as an adaptation to UV light level.
Historically, depending of that level, over thousands of years a population's
skin tone will slowly change to just dark enough to protect
folic acid in the bloodstream, but still light enough to let in
enough UV to start the cholesterol-->Vit.D conversion.
Pretty neat design these bodies of ours.
Of course now, with all the population interchange and movement,
the process no longer has time to produce a result.
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Hey, Mamav;
You wrote, "I missed Don's reply on my rush out the door to Omaha yesterday. I will more than agree that there is a big difference between Lincoln and Omaha area and the rest of this state. BIG difference."
Me: Forgive me for spinning this thread in an off-topic direction, but I just gotta ask: Does that old Chinese Restaurant "King Fong's" still exist? It's upstairs in a building on, is it Dodge street? The decor is real cheesy, like something out of a 1930's or 40's Humphrey Bogart movie. But they had some barbecue pork lomein that would knock your socks off. (drooooool)
You: "I was stationed in Germany for 3 years, too. My first husband was black and we did have a little problem finding housing. We finally found a place that wanted most of the rent paid in Marlboro's and Jim Beam. So whatever I am still not sure if the fact of our interracial marriage had anything to do with the divorce or not, as he was extremely abusive and finally beat me so bad......"
Me: Man I am so sorry to hear that. There's something about a guy beating his wife, or sexually abusing his kids, that really, really, really brings out an ugly side of me. I've already got a number of "speeches" prepared for the guys my kid will eventually bring home for me to meet. One of them is about them laying hands on her. I'll tell them straight up that I might not kill them, but they would be horrified to experience what they can live through.
I'm glad you were able to finally escape that situation.
You: "Then fast forward 20 years to Spokane WA, when Eric got out of the service and was looking for a job. No such luck. Companies had to import people to fill the "quotas" of minorities. He interviewed for one job that he was very qualified for, but didn't get the job because they needed minorities. Found out about that when the interviewer had drinks after work with my brother and was discussing his woes of not being able to fill jobs. With out naming names he talked about Eric and my bro figured out real quick that it was Eric he was talking about."
Me: Yeah. I too have been on the wrong end of reverse discrimination. I try not to think about it.
You: "Whoever said that the changes need to come from all people was right on. As a white person I can't make amends for what people did 150 years ago, Heck my family wasn't even here then, but, I want to do what's right now. I can't change everyone, but I can teach my kids and then there are 3 more colorblind people in the world who will look at a person for what he really is and not just what he looks like on the outside."
Me: That's a healthy attitude. My wife and I have tried to instill that within our daughter as well.
You: "BTW, If being dark skinned is so evil, why do white girls and guys spend sooo much $$ and time at tanning boothes and laying in the sun (when it's known to be really bad for you) to try to get a dark tan. I've never figured that one out."
Me: Depends on the dark skin I guess (shrug). People are funny you know.
You: "I guess in my own way I am prejudice...I don't like mean people That's why I hang out here. You are all a bunch of nice guys."
Me: These folks do indeed seem like nice people.
Don
You wrote, "I missed Don's reply on my rush out the door to Omaha yesterday. I will more than agree that there is a big difference between Lincoln and Omaha area and the rest of this state. BIG difference."
Me: Forgive me for spinning this thread in an off-topic direction, but I just gotta ask: Does that old Chinese Restaurant "King Fong's" still exist? It's upstairs in a building on, is it Dodge street? The decor is real cheesy, like something out of a 1930's or 40's Humphrey Bogart movie. But they had some barbecue pork lomein that would knock your socks off. (drooooool)
You: "I was stationed in Germany for 3 years, too. My first husband was black and we did have a little problem finding housing. We finally found a place that wanted most of the rent paid in Marlboro's and Jim Beam. So whatever
I am still not sure if the fact of our interracial marriage had anything to do with the divorce or not, as he was extremely abusive and finally beat me so bad......"Me: Man I am so sorry to hear that. There's something about a guy beating his wife, or sexually abusing his kids, that really, really, really brings out an ugly side of me. I've already got a number of "speeches" prepared for the guys my kid will eventually bring home for me to meet. One of them is about them laying hands on her. I'll tell them straight up that I might not kill them, but they would be horrified to experience what they can live through.
I'm glad you were able to finally escape that situation.
You: "Then fast forward 20 years to Spokane WA, when Eric got out of the service and was looking for a job. No such luck. Companies had to import people to fill the "quotas" of minorities. He interviewed for one job that he was very qualified for, but didn't get the job because they needed minorities. Found out about that when the interviewer had drinks after work with my brother and was discussing his woes of not being able to fill jobs. With out naming names he talked about Eric and my bro figured out real quick that it was Eric he was talking about."
Me: Yeah. I too have been on the wrong end of reverse discrimination. I try not to think about it.
You: "Whoever said that the changes need to come from all people was right on. As a white person I can't make amends for what people did 150 years ago, Heck my family wasn't even here then, but, I want to do what's right now. I can't change everyone, but I can teach my kids and then there are 3 more colorblind people in the world who will look at a person for what he really is and not just what he looks like on the outside."
Me: That's a healthy attitude. My wife and I have tried to instill that within our daughter as well.
You: "BTW, If being dark skinned is so evil, why do white girls and guys spend sooo much $$ and time at tanning boothes and laying in the sun (when it's known to be really bad for you) to try to get a dark tan. I've never figured that one out."
Me: Depends on the dark skin I guess (shrug). People are funny you know.
You: "I guess in my own way I am prejudice...I don't like mean people
That's why I hang out here. You are all a bunch of nice guys."Me: These folks do indeed seem like nice people.
Don
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I lucked out when I worked for the state. High turnover rate ( 100% in 13 months ) and they needed males, esp. white males.
I lasted 5 times the average, but after some 500+ Child Abuse/Neglect/Exploitation investigations, including another 5 years working for the tribe, and yet another year doing substans abuse early intervention with high risk kids, I just don't see it any more.
Probably a good thing, now I have a CCW. They frown on folks sround here shooting others on sight.
I lasted 5 times the average, but after some 500+ Child Abuse/Neglect/Exploitation investigations, including another 5 years working for the tribe, and yet another year doing substans abuse early intervention with high risk kids, I just don't see it any more.
Probably a good thing, now I have a CCW. They frown on folks sround here shooting others on sight.