OT- Girl Blaster Suggestions Wanted

In the realm of revolvers, I'd consider a 442- It's got about two or three more ounces than the unobtainium jobs, but light enough to be a little more convenient than the steel framed ones, and best of all is that it's easy on the budget.

I think hammerless is the way to go, (especially with a trigger job) It won't gather dust bunnies, wear out clothes, or accidentally cock. Also, it teaches them the preferred method of defensive shooting from the start..they don't have the option of lazily thumbcocking it and plinking at paper in an unrealistic training session.

The fiber optic sights I don't really trust yet for the day to day banging around that an EDC gun gets. I'd go with a standard ramp style, and some enamel if you want it more colorful.

Get a black version if you can so the color will show less for those times when someone may accidentally get a peak. I find a black gun in a black holster is a little more elusive to the eye than a satin finish that screams "GUN!" at first glance.

Doesn't Smith also make the 317 in .32 H&R Mag? might be worth a glance also...

Of course, depending on the carry to nightstand ratio, I don't think there's a better womens gun made than a model 19 or 66 with a three inch barrel. (Especially if you can get them for $200ish)

As far as autos...since you mentioned the difficulty cocking thing....my wifes had great luck with a little Beretta Model 21 .22LR with a tip up barrel. It's especially fantastic for her now, since she's got real bad carpel tunnel and all. It's alot easier for women to flip up that barrel than rack that slide. Don't forget they make this one in .32 ACP also.

You might check out one of the little Khar 9mms also. Never fired one, but a couple of my friends swear by them, and when I asked all the local gunshops about them last week I couldn't find any of them that had an ill word to say about them.


Hope I gave ya' somethin' worth kickin' 'round... :D
 
We are here in NY... My girlfriend owns the following:

Desert Eagle .40
Kahr .40
Styer .40
Colt .45

And she has NO problems shooting my 10mm's

BTW she is 5'2" 128lbs and about @ 13% body fat.

She has no problems concealing and may I add .... on certain days a better shot than I.

Doc
 
Dear Combat Medic,
For all the guys who are thinking this and too chicken to say it...

FIrst of all why is she just your girl friend? MARRY HER before any of these hooligans try to steal her away... :eek:

Second...none of us believe..she has all those guns...or can shoot them...so what we'd like to see are the pics to prove it...she should be dressed in appropriate range clothing...which of course is high heels and a thong...(oh and shooting glasses and ear muffs can't be too careful.)

Wendy just came in and punched me in the arm..she says I can't say that...

but if you're gonna brag up your gun toting hottie girl friend then we all gotta know if you're talking smack...right guys!

WE WANT PICS! WE WAN PICS! :D

Shane
 
I recommend a Smith&Wesson Model 640 ( 2" stainless hammerless) or the afore mentioned Ladysmith, either one in 38 Special. Load with wadcutter for training her, then 5 rounds of decent quality hollow point (don't save money there). My wife loves the size, lack of maintenance (which she could care less about) and lack of recoil. While I personally carry a Wilson 45, I also have one of these that never leaves the truck, and sits patiently beside the Chiruwa AK against the day......
 
Thanks again for all suggestions, y'all. We went into Sports Link so Jordy could look at a wider assortment of firearms yesterday. We should be able to go shoot several small .38's/.357's and other small duty-caliber sidearms soon.

John
 
Has she shot much? How much experience does she have with firearms?

I would recommend a compact revolver with an internal or shrouded hammer, less snagging.

I purchased a 2" barreled 640 .357 for my wife to use for CC. With .357 it's a handful, definitely not an all day plinker, but she has it loaded with .38 +p for defense. Regular .38 special loads are quite manageable for target shooting.
 
The little Kahrs are very concealable, very simple, and very nice to shoot. I've had mine for 5 years or so and have no complaints. Their grips are perfect for small hands. I also like the Browning Hi-Power as far as ergonomics go (and it's probably the prettiest handgun ever), but it is a bit large for carry purposes and the trigger is initially kind of terrible (it does get better with usage).

Both of these choices might be a little bit out of the price range you're looking for, though, unless you look for them used. Good luck, hope she finds something she likes. :)
 
Hmph.

Well, we went shooting today.

Good news: Jordy is a crack shot with a Hi-Power or a 4" Model 66.

Bad news: after every shot into the center of the target, she shrieks and lowers her hands... :rolleyes: She actually did fire a controlled pair at the end of her first cylinder, and the holes almost touched at 7 yards. (Shooting 150-grain .38 loads.)

She refused to fire the 2" Ruger Security Six (due to the small grip).

She would not fire my Seecamp .25.

She only fired one round from the Kahr P9, and complained about the recoil.

Sheesh. It's a good thing many women are afraid of firearms, or they would rule the world...more obviously. ;)

Action plan: I am buying a 4" Model 65. Since Jordy is sharpshooting with a similar piece, I figure she can shoot a 4" model K frame until she is quite comfortable with it, then try something a little smaller. She has up to 3 months before she gets her carry permit back, anyway.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

John
 
Sounds like you guys had fun shooting...

Sounds like Jordy is a good egg! Knows what she likes and what she doesn't...

Pretty much can't go wrong with a 4" Smith...

another armed citizen wlaking the planet...good deal!

Shane
 
*L* Sounds like you had yerself a grand ole time.... :D Reminds me of way back when my wife first went racing off to buy her first handgun, a 1911. grabbed 200 rounds and drove out to the middle of nowhere to break it in. 'lo and behold every round she squeezed off a shot the badly adjusted extractor would send the brass sailing backwards to smack her right between the eyes. But did it slow down Karie? heck no.....(you'd have to know her and her degree of stubbornness) fired every round she had. developed the most horrible flinch I'd ever seen, but boy did she learn to duck... :D

As to the whole thing with your lil' ladys shootin' edgumuckation.....I don't want to sound like I'm undermining you in any way, it's very clear that you thoroughly know your way around a gun and all, and probably a helluva great teacher, but....have you considered registering her in a professional course perhaps?

You know the phenomena when you tell a friend, relative, spouse how to do solve a problem or do something nineteen different times, then a month later they come running up to you saying "this really nice guy in the line at the grocery store gave me the greatest idea...." (Please don't say I'm the only one here that deals with this?? :confused: :D )

I guess it's somewhat based off that principle. a less familiar (but decent) instructor somehow grabs attention like we ourselves can't do with our loved ones. I'd imagine thier impariality may help. I know in my experience I tend to get frustrated alot with Karie during these situations, and have to constantly remind myself to be nice and patient, and withhold the urge to scream at her like an old Gunnery Sarge or something- I'm either doing that or pussyfootin' my way around a topic so as to not hurt her feelings... :rolleyes:
A different instructors impartiality in such matters may help.

Like I said, I know you're very knowledgeable yourself, hell I look for your answer first and foremost when I post firearm questions. It wouldn't surprise me if you have a wall of instructor certifications yourself, but..I figured it was worth suggesting...

good luck to y'all and have fun!
 
RWS,

I'm familiar with the phenomenon, and have considered it.

Having friends in the industry, Jordy has the option of receiving a free 3-day training course...if she can make it to TN! :D I'd happily pay for an afternoon's instruction from the local guy at Shooter's, but I am unsure of the quality instruction dispensed, y'know?

I have a good friend from SC who has a long list of qualifications and a good deal of patience. I'm attempting to arrange for us to get together sometime soon- he'll also be bringing more handguns for Jordy to try.

For now, I'm trying to take it slowly, not forcing anything on her, listening to her input, and not trying to go to far, too fast. She ended up spending 1/2 the time at Shooter's on my younger friend's Stevens .22. That's fine- it's trigger time, and he was happily playing with everything else...like the full-auto Uzi! :cool:

John
 
Runs With Scissors said:
You know the phenomena when you tell a friend, relative, spouse how to do solve a problem or do something nineteen different times, then a month later they come running up to you saying "this really nice guy in the line at the grocery store gave me the greatest idea...." (Please don't say I'm the only one here that deals with this?? :confused: :D )
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Yep. I can teach other people and their kids to play musical instruments, but not my wife or kids. I found it's best to "contract those jobs out."
 
Spectre said:
Hmph . . . Action plan: I am buying a 4" Model 65. Since Jordy is sharpshooting with a similar piece, I figure she can shoot a 4" model K frame until she is quite comfortable with it, then try something a little smaller. She has up to 3 months before she gets her carry permit back, anyway.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

John
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John:

As with many things in life, it is often the process iself that ends up sorting things out for the best.

I can't add much to the great points of view already put forth in the thread. Your 4" M65 is an excellent choice for now; it will allow her to gain experience and confidence, and get her accustomed to recoil and how to handle it. In a few months it will be easier to get her to consider smaller, more appropriate carry guns.

My personal recommendation in a carry piece for women is the S&W M60 M60LS, or any of the stainless J-Frame 38 Specials. Even a J-Frame 357 is OK, with 38 Special or +P ammo. This is NOT my chauvinistic opinion; it is based on having gone through the process with other women over the course of the past 30 years or so. They invariably choose the small revolver, with few exceptions.

Those that were originally attracted to blowback .380s were put off by the required gripping forces necessary to rack the slide. They found that the "fiddling" with loading magazines, then inserting the mags, then racking the slide, then firing, etc., was too much of a drill. When they picked up a five-shot J-frame Smith revolver, they kept gong back to it. Stainless is the more practical material of construction, IMO, because it tolerates purses, gloveboxes, consoles, pockets, and similar environments much better than a blued finish.

That all said, despite her seemingly "natural" shooting ability it is critical that she practices, practices, practices. Higher proficiency and familiarity will boost confidence and reduce/eliminate the emotional reaction of shooting.

Best of luck; keep us posted!

Noah
 
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