OT: Wet Beretta- a user?

Nasty said:
The Jetfires are overbuilt Mike...no worries as long as the bore and chamber are fairly decent. They were never made for 25 yard target practice anyway (although mine will easily hold with 3-4 inches all day).

It sounds like a perfect pocket piece in that you don't ever have to worry about the finish since it's already trashed. Even better...if you ever have to use it and lose it.

As for hollow points...forget them...mouse guns were built (factory, not some of the little hot rods custom worked) for ball ammo and at the low velocities involved, you want as much penetration as possible and accurate shot placement. Some .25 ball is a bit hotter...but make sure you function test it well before you trust it for carry.

I have one of the older Jetfires...dates back to the 60s...as well as a .32 KelTec P32. Neither would be my first choice for a fight, but it's a lot better than nothing.

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This whole post is spot on. Late one fall, one of my informants was shot four times in the chest. His 'working group' correctly surmised that he had rolled and was giving me information. He lay there for a while, bleeding, waiting to die (he was sure that he was), and after awhile sat up, and decided to walk to a hospital nearly a mile away. I was called to the E.R., tore across town to find the Doctor literally popping the .25 slugs out of the skin over his ribs with his thumbs!!! Two shirts, one of them wool, and an undershirt had been enough to render the .25 ineffective. All the guy really had to do was change his shorts... :D The doctor commented that if the guy had shot him in the temple or in the eye socket where the bone is thin then maybe....

Nevertheless, the gun that you actually carry all the time, not in the truck or back in the apartment....That's the one that may do you some good, only if the handgun really is at hand. Personally I'd rather have a .44 or .45, but if it had to be a pocket pistol, I'd take a 22LR over a .25 any day.( and probably over a .32 as well )
 
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If that was salt water that it was soaked in, I'd recommend a good washing with hot freshwater to dissolve any residual salt. That stuff will kill you in the long run. Make sure the water is good and hot - about as hot as your tap will produce, so it evaporates quickly. Give everything a good rinsing. A bit of very light flash rust may appear...just wipe it off with some oil.

Follow with Ballistol. It ought to take care of any remaining water.

As the others said, if everything appears to be in order and there's no heavy pitting in the chamber, bore, or breech face, it ought to go bang just fine. Wear safety glasses.

Rust means nothing, only deep pitting does, and only if it's in a high stress area. (Even then it's not always an issue.) As always, if in doubt, have a pro look at it.
 
Satori, Bri & JN, thanks.

Just invested 3 more hours in it, 300, 600 grit sanding, blued it with Birchwood Casey. Should have taken before & after pix, but it was so bad I didn't think it had a future. Now, not bad. Very simple mechanism- recoil springs remind me of bent paper clips.

Ammo wasn't that bad- $7.67 box.

Bri, will check link- neighbor interested in 1903's value- something hard to find on net.

Will shoot it soon... 4th of July is around the corner...


Mike
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No, Kismet, you can't have it.
 
Hey Mike, Kis was just trying to do you a favor :D I've liberated a few unwanted pistols and saved people the problem of disposing of them "properly"... Like having them melted down :mad:
I'd like to hear more about .25 ACP war stories. All I've heard are like J-Narc's. There must be others... Would I be better off with a sharpened stick in my pocket?
 
Kismet said:
Nylon 66 bery bery dangerous.

Send to me.

I save you.
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You can trust Kismet. I'm gonna send him a box full of old, obsolete Lugers, Mausers, Manlichers, and Roth-Sauers to dispose of. Thanks for providing this service, Kismet.
Bri
 
Man, I'd send that pistol to Beretta and tell them how your beloved Beretta pistol was savaged by the typhoon and can they do anything to save it??!?!?
 
Brian?

They will live here forever.

I never throw anything out.

But, er...ixnay on ublicpay nouncementannay.


Loose hips stink slips...uh...Loose stips slink hips...hmmm shhhhhhhh!
 
Until the era of Magnums, no one knew they were not suppose to stop what they were doing and would in fact, often actually die because they didn't know that a .22, .25 or .32 wouldn't stop or kill them.

Entire nations were defended by .32's, the powerful .380, the highly penetrating military 9m/m or the latest high powered .38 Special.

Folks...any *reliable* firearm that you are willing to train with and learn to use is better than bare hands, edged weapons, rocks, sticks or ball-peen hammers.

They all have their best roles...the trick is in skill and selection of the tool.

Um...it's also important that you actually have it with you when you need it...thus the role of the mouse gun.

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Brian,

As a spy for the State of Wisconsin, a smattering of foreign languages is part of our extensive training. Weapons, tracking, and secrecy... are all part...of ......

uh.....er.....hmmmmmm


nevermind.
 
Bri in Chi said:
I'd like to hear more about .25 ACP war stories. All I've heard are like J-Narc's. There must be others... Would I be better off with a sharpened stick in my pocket?
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Another to keep you happy.....One of my agents, a chain smoker, developed lung cancer. This was one of my best undercover agents, and he still had some time to do before retiring comfortably. What was to be the removal of one lobe of his lung rapidly became the loss of his entire left lung. OF COURSE, he kept smoking. The cancer transferred to his sinuses, and they basically cored out his head below the brain case, to include the loss of the roof of his mouth. This agent carried only a Colt .25 in his pocket, and by this time couldn't run five car lengths. I advised him to quit working undercover; "What if they shoot you in the chest?" I said....Grinning, he replied " They've got a fifty/fifty chance of shooting me on the wrong side!" Talk about a set of balls...The guy's working undercover coughing blood into a handkerchief...you think anybody is gonna believe he's the man???

Well, one night things went wrong and a bad guy pulled a gun (9mm) on him, and believing him to be unarmed, made the mistake of delaying by talking about killing him before doing it. My agent pulled the .25, placed the barrel in the soft place under his chin and disarmed the bad guy. OF COURSE the bad guy **** himself, and my guy just laughed it off as a close call. All of us are a little nuts in DEA :D :D :D
 
Nasty said:
Until the era of Magnums, no one knew they were not suppose to stop what they were doing and would in fact, often actually die because they didn't know that a .22, .25 or .32 wouldn't stop or kill them.

Entire nations were defended by .32's, the powerful .380, the highly penetrating military 9m/m or the latest high powered .38 Special.

Folks...any *reliable* firearm that you are willing to train with and learn to use is better than bare hands, edged weapons, rocks, sticks or ball-peen hammers.

They all have their best roles...the trick is in skill and selection of the tool.

Um...it's also important that you actually have it with you when you need it...thus the role of the mouse gun.

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Really well said, Nasty.

John M. Browing thought the world of the .32 auto cartridge.

He, uhh, knew a lot about guns.

What can we learn? I think you just spelled it out.


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Nasty said it as well as I've ever heard it said. Thanks J-Narc and all... for this very interesting thread.
Who would think this dialogue would turn up on a so-called Khukri forum? What does this have to do with khukris? (Pick one)
Everything!
Nothing!
Huh? What's a khukri?
 
Bri in Chi said:
Nasty said it as well as I've ever heard it said. Thanks J-Narc and all... for this very interesting thread.
Who would think this dialogue would turn up on a so-called Khukri forum? What does this have to do with khukris? (Pick one)
Everything!
Nothing!
Huh? What's a khukri?
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Everything! It's called mindset...If one goes into harms way without deciding before hand that he is coming home, over the bodies of his adversaries, if necessary...that person should stay home...your kids need you. If I have to shoot you (and I have), so be it...I'd really rather not (too much paperwork). No gun?...I'll use a khuk....No khuk....I'll hit you in the head with a heavy ashtray (and I have)....But , believe me, I intend to go home to the wife and kids. My job was to bring my adversaries before the bar of Justice...not to kill them. Of course, some of them didn't believe that. Some blades carried daily are exceptionally good tools, but a khuk...I pick it up and it speaks to me....you know what it says? "Pity the poor b*****d that stands between you and hearth and home." Just a thought....
 
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