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Explain to me how it is fair for a dealer posing as a collector should be able to sell in the individual wanting to sell area. How do you come to terms with allowing that to be fair to the dealers who say they are dealers and support the site.
 
I agee with you and have stated that I thought it was a mistake. (getting dinged for "next in line")

Regards,

A "dingy moderator".

I am still waiting on why I was called that and why I was out of line for dinging Rat.

P.S. I think Rat is a good guy. :D. (seriously), but I did not appreciate his comment towards me. Maybe I have a short fuse today.
 
Could a dealer have a personal collection?

I'm not saying that's what he's doing, but if the owner of Walmart wanted to sell or trade a few Randall's, would he be a dealer because Walmart sells knives?

If he is, make the forum rules clearly state that if you sell knives for profit you are a dealer.

If not, you have to make the distinction on a case by case basis based on how the member is using the exchange.

The rules are ambigious at best. The dings are concrete.
 
As for Rat, his post was after you moved the post.

A move you made because you didn't want people commenting on moderation in the other forum.

Then you dinged him for commenting on moderation.
 
He is welcome to comment on the moderation.

Am I suposed to take it when he calls me dingy for moving a thread where it belongs?

It is a simple question.

By the way Rat and I are cool and have worked this out.
 
I think it is pretty clear as well as posted in the exchange forums.

.. you buy knives with the express purpose to turn around and resell them at a profit, on a regular basis, then you just might be a dealer.
... you buy knives at wholesale, then turn around and sell them at just below retail, then you just might be a dealer.
... you have a store, or a certificate of resale, and are selling here as a Gold Member, then you just might be a dealer.

We're getting reports of at least 3 individuals listed as Gold members engaging in this sort of thing. Needless to say, this is frowned upon and will get your Gold Membership pulled.

Just a friendly warning from your friendly forums Administrator.

Kevin
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Neither did I. Nor do I think I deserve the piling on.

It was directed at me for moving the thread and saying that the poster should have been dinged.

All I did was move the thread.

Now I have been pretty patient in waiting on your answers, will you guys explain to me why I should take that and why I deserved that comment?
 
Bastid said:
He is welcome to comment on the moderation.

Am I suposed to take it when he calls me dingy for moving a thread where it belongs?

It is a simple question.

By the way Rat and I are cool and have worked this out.
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Perhaps it was an untimely and poorly chosen play on words. I didn't see who said it or the context and I have too much work to do this afternoon to go look. Just a possible view point. We all have our bad days and say things we ought not to. Spark has made his ruling regarding the next in line issue as well if you guys didn't see it.
 
Bastid said:
I agee with you and have stated that I thought it was a mistake. (getting dinged for "next in line")

Regards,

A "dingy moderator".

I am still waiting on why I was called that and why I was out of line for dinging Rat.

P.S. I think Rat is a good guy. :D. (seriously), but I did not appreciate his comment towards me. Maybe I have a short fuse today.
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Bastid said:
He is welcome to comment on the moderation.

Am I suposed to take it when he calls me dingy for moving a thread where it belongs?

It is a simple question.

By the way Rat and I are cool and have worked this out.
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Bastid and I worked this out via PMs.

We are on the same page - I stated my opinion of a procedure for dinging for posting in the wrong forum - I did not intend a personal attack, and can see where he could take it that way...

Thanks everyone - the infraction has been removed.

Sincerely,

John
 
Regardless, I thought it was a clever play on words over a situation where it seemd as though some mods were geting a little trigger happy with the dinging.

And please people - we ARE here to (hopfully) have some fun -

"Sticks and stones" was a popluar phrase my mother told me more than once.........

And now back to the KNIVES!!
 
So the owner of Walmart is a dealer because Walmart sells knives, he can't sell a Randall in the regular exchange.

That's a good clarifiation but I think it's a very exclusionary policy.

The first rule puts Busse collectors in a grey area. If they have a large collection and like to sell a few knives to buy a few more, they have to be willing to loose money on the deal to avoid dealer status.

It's hard to loose money on a Busse, does that make them a dealer?
 
How do you come to terms with allowing that to be fair to the dealers who say they are dealers and support the site.
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The same way I come to terms with Gold Member supporting the site. Let’s get Wal-Mart involved again.

If I’m a mom & pop’s store I don’t do the volume that Wal-Mart does so my taxes a allot less than Wal-Mart.

I’m sure there a many dealers that do allot of business at Blade Forums. Then there is the guy that occasional says hey I got that knife for sale. Why do both of them have to pay 800 buck to do that?

I think if a dealer makes a simple little blip about something for sell he or she is doing the community a service. I think the Mods take a bigger offence to this than the owner does.

I myself have my hands full in my own shop, in fact I should be leaving for a Trade Show now and I’m messing around here. But when I do have time to read through the threads I would like to be able to say I have that knife to a member looking for it.

I do understand that the forum does not want to clog up discussions with dealer trying to sell knives but like all good things if it done in moderation it’s good.

For example:
A member is looking for an XYZ knife, you have one and simply say “I have one contact me and we will talk” is a lot different than posting and ad in a thread stating; XYZ knife for sale $150.00 ect….

My point goes back to if you’re a dealer there is a different set of rules.

Tom
Chestnut Ridge Knife Shop
 
Gentlebeings, the place to talk about policy is Bladeforums Service & Support where the people responsible will see it. Scattering threads all over the forums accomplishes nothing. I didn't even find this thread until the whole thing was all over and I doubt either Code 3 or Spark have seen it even now, so your posts here were a waste of time.

It was just a simple mistake that was corrected as soon as Code 3 logged on today.

I'll address the question about dealers trading their personal collections in another post; first let's move this thread where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Bastid
I agee with you and have stated that I thought it was a mistake. (getting dinged for "next in line")

Regards,

A "dingy moderator".

I am still waiting on why I was called that and why I was out of line for dinging Rat.

P.S. I think Rat is a good guy. . (seriously), but I did not appreciate his comment towards me. Maybe I have a short fuse today.
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Originally Posted by Bastid
He is welcome to comment on the moderation.

Am I suposed to take it when he calls me dingy for moving a thread where it belongs?

It is a simple question.

By the way Rat and I are cool and have worked this out.
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Rat-30 said:
Bastid and I worked this out via PMs.

We are on the same page - I stated my opinion of a procedure for dinging for posting in the wrong forum - I did not intend a personal attack, and can see where he could take it that way...

Thanks everyone - the infraction has been removed.

Sincerely,

John
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john,

i'm glad you and bastid got this straightened out, and in the manner in which it should have been handled, privately.

Winston
 
Thanks Cougar, I wasn't sure if it could be moved and then married with the other thread or not, I was going to ask in the Back End but you beat me to it.
 
Cougar Allen said:
Gentlebeings, the place to talk about policy is Bladeforums Service & Support where the people responsible will see it. Scattering threads all over the forums accomplishes nothing. I didn't even find this thread until the whole thing was all over and I doubt either Code 3 or Spark have seen it even now, so your posts here were a waste of time.

It was just a simple mistake that was corrected as soon as Code 3 logged on today.

I'll address the question about dealers trading their personal collections in another post; first let's move this thread where it belongs.

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actually cougar its far from resolved..... i still have a 40 point infraction standing for simply not being in the mood to be talked down too..... i think i am done here...
 
Gentlebeings, when Bladeforums started out it was a much smaller place than it is now. When we first set up forums for selling knives there were separate forums for dealers but dealers were allowed to sell knives from their private collections in the non-dealer forums just like anyone else, and in those days you didn't even have to be a member to sell knives on Bladeforums.

Word got around. You can get rich quick! You don't have to have a store and you don't have to pay to advertise! You can advertise for free on Bladeforums! All you have to do is say in every ad "from my private collection" and you can advertise for free. Just learn how to type those four words and YOU CAN RUN A BUSINESS FOR NOTHING!!!

Nine out of ten ads had that phrase "from my private collection." People we'd never heard of were advertising -- people who had no interest in knives; they were only interested in money. People were pre-selling knives that weren't available yet "from my private collection." We'd catch them doing things like that and they'd say, "well, that's what I heard -- you can advertise for free on Bladeforums as long as you say "from my private collection" in every ad. Some of them told us "from my private collection" is a phrase used in advertising that means it's an especially good deal. One dealer even told us it doesn't mean anything at all, it's just a phrase used in advertising. :D

Now, well, if you're a dealer and you want to sell something that really is from your private collection, well, you can get a dealer membership and you can post it in the dealer for-sale forum and you can say it's from your private collection. If you're not happy with that, blame the thieves.
 
valleytinworks said:
actually cougar its far from resolved..... i still have a 40 point infraction standing for simply not being in the mood to be talked down too..... i think i am done here...
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That's news to me. I'll look into that.

How about if everybody tries not to get too upset for a little while and give us a chance to figure out what's going on and sort it out? If it doesn't get sorted out, then you can fire the heavy artillery.
 
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