Overpriced 440C blades?

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Gaston444 said:
No dagger comes sharp from the maker (including the Cold Steel peacekeepers and peacemakers). Most Boker knives are especially dull, no matter what they are.

440C is harder to work with, and I'll gladly pay a premium for 440C to avoid anything else, other than maybe 420HC or Aus-6-8. I will also gladly pay to avoid anything CPM (well because I will simply not purchase any CPM at all, for any reason). 440C is heinous to sharpen, even on diamond hones (hence my recent tentative leaning to 420HC), and some 440C is astoundingly bad when improperly treated.

For a bit of education on 440C: http://jayfisher.com/440C_Love_Hate.htm#440C_A_Love/Hate_Affair

Yes it's not the 90s anymore: Things have gotten way worse. Not to mention Moras are Survival Knives now: Brrr!

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Are you just trolling? I'm honestly asking.

You "won't buy any CPM steels" at all.....for what reason? Again I'm genuinely asking.

And how you could think 440c is hard to sharpen is beyond me. I will record myself right now bringing a 440c blade that is butter knife dull to hair whittling using nothing but my hands, an arksansas stone, and a strop. And that stone is pretty soft.

Explain yourself please.
 
jimmyd1982 said:
Are we pirates now? Well aye aye matey, although I can't imagine what your problem with Disney world could be. It is the happiest place on earth.
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They also used to make knives. Check out this little fella!

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Gaston444 said:
No dagger comes sharp from the maker (including the Cold Steel peacekeepers and peacemakers). Most Boker knives are especially dull, no matter what they are.

440C is harder to work with, and I'll gladly pay a premium for 440C to avoid anything else, other than maybe 420HC or Aus-6-8. I will also gladly pay to avoid anything CPM (well because I will simply not purchase any CPM at all, for any reason). 440C is heinous to sharpen, even on diamond hones (hence my recent tentative leaning to 420HC), and some 440C is astoundingly bad when improperly treated.

For a bit of education on 440C: http://jayfisher.com/440C_Love_Hate.htm#440C_A_Love/Hate_Affair

Yes it's not the 90s anymore: Things have gotten way worse. Not to mention Moras are Survival Knives now: Brrr!

Gaston
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I don't own any daggers, but the blanket claim that 'all' daggers are blunt when bought seems ill considered.

I have no problem sharpening 440C and find it works well as a blade steel, and whilst I don't mind 420 or AUS6/8 I avoid them as I have found the edge holding to be disappointing. AUS 8 I find rolls the edge too easily. Just my experience.

You keep saying 'CPM' steels, which AFAIK refers to steel from one company. But I assume you're referring to any steel produced with a particle metallurgy process?

My own experience with powder steels is all in folders, not fixed blades. To prefer AUS8 over, say, Elmax, is something I just can't fathom, other than being due to a lack of sharpening skills, and even then... Elmax isn't that hard to sharpen. It's all round balance of properties (edge holding/ease of sharpening/corrosion resistance/hardness/toughness) are to me right in the goldilocks zone for a folding knife. To say you would 'pay' to avoid a good modern powder steel and go for 440C seems a bit off to me, and to prefer 420/AUS6or8 seems silly.

Please explain why a good folding knife is better in AUS8 than Elmax.
 
It’s working on mine but I guess that’s because I put the link in, apologies.

Still, google Disney knives images and there are loads. Some are quite interestingly shaped.
 
I’ve had a few good laughs and Gufaws reading this thread! 440C is a fine steel and isn’t out dated in any way shape or form! Not hard to sharpen ether!————- the knives that see the most use aren’t Combat knives, They are Culinary knives and I use 440C with a RC of 60 for my 11 3/4” Chef Knife because it holds a great edge and the large Carbides give some added slice, like mini serrations for the Chef using one, until the Chef has time to sharpen it or bring it to me for Sharpening!——— ———————————————————440C is also an excellent choice by Boker for their Fairbain/Dagger because daggers are primarily for sticking in between someone’s Ribs to let the blood out & The Air in, or Slashing their throat or Arteries Etc.. ———————————-No “Super Steel” is going to do that any better! If you like the knife? Buy it! If not? Go get a tube of Butthurt Creme instead!
 
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